1852 Info 1b: John Harper Crompton |
A family gathering
| Right: John Harper and family taken after the death
of Sarah Jane - between 1930 and 1935
Source: Jim Keron, Ontario, Canada |
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| Back row, left to right: Harper CROMPTON, ?, Esther, Whyrill
(1882), Lily Birchenough Middle row: John Harper, Flo BOOTE Front row: Nellie with her son John at his christening, ?. |
However, Nellie married in 1945, 10 years after John Harper's death. This may be the 1933 christening of John, first child of Harper CROMPTON, born 1906, and Florence BOOTE. At the moment John is the only child known to be born between the deaths of Sarah Jane and John Harper. The photograph of the proud father resembles his image in 1937 - see 1852info5a
Their daughters
In the photograph on the next page, Alison Warner suggested it may be: Cissie, Aggie, Jessie and Lottie. Florrie was quite a bit older and wore glasses by this stage. In pictures of Lottie and Maggie, Maggie has a slightly heavier jaw than Lottie, but they looked very similar as teenagers.
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| Above, from left to right: The sisters Maggie, Aggie, Cissie and Florrie circa 1910 Source: Jim Keron, Ontario, Canada |
Florrie, Aggie, Lottie and Cissy - the unmarried sister - John Harper and Sarah Jane's second, ninth, tenth and eleventh children
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| Above: John Harper and Sarah's daughters in the Hoviley
Brow Primitive Methodist Chapel baptism register.
Source: Manchester City Archives: Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Baptism Record - 1909-1953 Ref: Box C22/5 C22/24 (Accessed: 29 February 2020) |
| Alison Warner comments: If it is Flo it would be have been most likely taken
by her father and printed at home. She has a family look to her a little like
Grandpa Boote
Right: Florence Boote 1927 aged 21 Source: Alison Warner |
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| Alison Warner reports that the single aunts, minus Lottie, who worked for Crompton
brothers, ran a guest house in Bispham before and during the Second World War, called
something like 'Wave Crest', Bispham to the north of Blackpool. It is
suggested that their nephew, Geoffrey Boote, had been evacuated to Bispham from Hyde.
Bipsham was considered more respectable than Blackpool. In 2019 this was still a
substantial if slightly run down property, which may have extended to the dormer
above the shop.
Right: 2 Beaufort Avenue Blackpool 2019, now Beaufort Lodge Hotel |
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| 'A photograph of Aggie and her fiancé Jack (sic) hung
on the wall of Fanny's Canadian home.' Source: Pat RYDE,
39;[Staff Sgt] Julian WALKER, Aggies's fiancée was killed
in the war. [08 December 1917 - Peronne, aged 33]. Her
sister, Maggie BOOTE, had the bronze medal for him, presumably it had come from
Aggie'. Source: Alison WARNER It is likely that Maggie BOOTE had
what the troops referred to as "The Dead Man's Penny".
During World War One, the next of kin of service personnel killed as a result of the war would be presented with a Memorial Plaque, cast in bronze and approximately five inches (125 mm) in diameter. On the plaque itself no rank was recorded as the intention was to show equality in their sacrifice. Right: an example at the approximate actual size In addition the Memorial Pack contained an official letter, the commemorative Scroll, from the King and country, and a "personal" letter from the King. |
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1939 England and Wales Register 29 September 1939 ED Area code: NCA ED District code: J Sched no: 85 Dwelling: 2 Beaufort Avenue, Bispham (Beaufort Lodge Hotel FY2 9HQ) Borough,UD,RD: Blackpool, Lancashire Names Sex D of B Status Personal Occupation Others Crompton, Florence F 18may1877 S Boarding House Proprieties Crompton, Agnes F 07dec1887 S Cook Crompton, Mary C F 06sep1890 S Housemaid Boote, Geoffrey M 20dec1930 S At school
The National Identity Number devised from this Registration would have been: Enumeration Area code+Emuneration District code+Schedule number+position in house
| 'The four unmarried girls
Florence (Florrie, Agnes, Mary Cecelia (Cissie) and Lottie lived together in 16 Knott
Lane, Hyde.'
Source: Pat RYDE, Fanny CROMPTON's grand daughter Apparently it had a big wash house out the back where they housed the washing machine they'd bought before the war. Maggie BOOTE used to walk round with her washing and do it on the machine there. That machine kept going into my childhood as it went to [Maggie's] after all the aunties died. Not many washers run for 3 decades now. Source: Alison WARNER, Maggie CROMPTON's grand daughter |
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| Above: 16 Knott Lane, Hyde in 2009. This house and the rest of Knott Lane, was built by Crompton Brothers. Source: Author |
Note: The Post Office directory of Post Codes does not list a 116 Knott Lane. Neither is there a 116 on the ground. Edith WARNER (Maggie BOOTE's daughter) reported that the sisters lived at 16 Knott Lane - see above. Source: Sheila CROMPTON
'Florrie died first with Agnes and Cissie dying on the same day: the second dying as a result of a stroke.' Source: Pat RYDE
It is also interesting to note that the service at the crematorium was conducted by the clergyman from Glossop, who also featured in John Harper's obituary. Glossop was the home of Miss C Darlington.
'The family 'heard [Cissy] hit the floorboards as they were nursing Aggie; the sisters became intestate as each had left everything to the other. It was a complex estate involving the remaining rented properties and freeholds from their father. Letters of Administration must have been granted to all surviving siblings equally hence Fanny coming over from Canada.; Source: Alison WARNER.
Jim KERON recalls 'a really complicated the estate as they each had their wills made out to the other. My grandmother, Fanny, ended up going back to help sort it out. She had some kind of share in it but divided it amongst her four children and kept none for herself.'
The obituary gives a limited insight in to the sister's lives.
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The mourners were:
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Right: Map locating:
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| At the end of Knott Lane and across the Stockport Road was
Joel Lane Primitive Methodist
Chapel 1 where the sisters were able to continue their non-
conformist worship, sing in the choir and fulfil their roll as Sunday school teachers.
Above: A 1932 map locating Joel Lane Chapel marked yellow - scale 1:10560 | ![]() |
| Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Joel Lane Primitive Methodist Chapel Photos: Mike Berrell |
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1. Joel Lane in 1900 2. Joel Lane Chapel front view in 1900 |
3. Joel Lane Chapel in 1900 4. Hyde Chapel |
5. Joel Lane Chapel interior 6. Hyde Chapel, Stockport Road, c. 1900 |
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Lottie CROMPTON - John Harper and Sarah Jane's tenth child
1921 Census: Sun 19th June 1921
Source: RG15; Piece: ;
RegDist number: 443; SubDist: 2; ED 16; Sched: 122;
Reg District: Stockport; Parish: Hyde
Dwelling: 18 Thornley Street
Place: Hyde, Cheshire
Rooms: 5
Children under sixteen: none
Name Rel Age Mar Occupation Employer Work place Birthplace
Yrs Mn
John Harper Crompton Head 69 1 M Builder Retired Employer Yorks Bridlington
Sarah Jane Crompton Wife 79 8 M Home Duties Yorks, Newbald
Florence Crompton Dau 44 1 S Home Duties Yorks, Market Weighton
Lottie Crompton Dau 31 9 S Home Duties Cheshire, Hyde
May Cecilia Crompton Dau 30 9 S Home Duties Cheshire, Hyde
Alison Warner describes Lottie as an unmarried sister who worked for Crompton brothers. This is substantiated by the 1939 Register.
1939 England and Wales Register 29 September 1939
ED Area code: LFC
ED District code: C
Sched no: 68
Dwelling: 213 Dowson Road
Borough,UD,RD: Hyde, Cheshire
Names Sex D of B Status Personal Occupation Others
Boote William M 12oct1900 M Mechanical engineer (Chief Draftsman) ARP Head warden
Steam & Hydraulic
Boote Maggie F 13jul1894 S Unpaid domestic duties
Redacted
Boote Lottie F 26sep1889 S Builder's clerk
Names are redacted because of the 100 years rule.
Lottie Boote's names was ruled through because the Register was kept up to date
until 1953. Lottie BOOTE's name is ruled through with the name CROMPTON added as
a correction.
The National Identity Number devised from this Registration would have been:
Enumeration Area code+Emuneration District code+Schedule number+position in house
Fanny CROMPTON - John Harper and Sarah Jane's seventh child
Fanny married John Robert (Jack) NIXON and died in Canada in 1975. Her family remains in Canada. See 1852info4a.
Jessie CROMPTON - John Harper and Sarah Jane's eighth child
| Her marriage is recorded in the GRO for the second quarter of 1916 | |
| Ernest Barlow was born in the fourth quarter of 1885 ... | |
| and died in the fourth quarter of 1967 aged 82. |
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| Above: Jessie CROMPTON and Ernest Barlow in the Hoviley Brow Primitive
Methodist Chapel's marriage register.
Source: Manchester City Archives: Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Marriage Record 1847-1971 Ref: GB127.C22/5 (Accessed 29 February 2020) |
It is possible that Jessie and Ernest had a daughter, 'Miss M Barlow', who attended the funeral of the sisters.
1921 Census: Sun 19th June 1921
Source: RG15; Piece: ;
RegDist number: 464; SubDist: 2; ED 21; Sched: 215;
Reg District: Chorlton; Parish: South Manchester
Dwelling: 1 Siddall Street
Place: Longridge, South Manchester, Lancashire
Rooms: 6
Children under sixteen: none
Name Rel Age Mar Occupation Employer Work place Birthplace
Yrs Mn
Ernest Barlow Head 36 5 M Chartered Acc. Clerk Arnold Williams 6 John Dalt Street Manchester Lancs, Manchester
Jessie Barlow Wife 34 7 M Home Duties Yorks, Holme
1939 England and Wales Register 29 September 1939 ED Area code: NJK ED District code: L Sched no: 74 Dwelling: 191 Kings Road (M21 0XX) Borough,UD,RD: Manchester, Lancashire Names Sex D of B Status Personal Occupation Others Barlow Ernest M 04jan1885 M Bookkeeper Barlow Jessie F 05nov1886 M Unpaid domestic duties
The National Identity Number devised from this Registration would have been: Enumeration Area code+Emuneration District code+Schedule number+position in house
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Left: 191 Kings Road M21 0XX, Jessie's home in 1939 Source: Author |
Margaret CROMPTON - John Harper and Sarah Jane's twelfth child (Maggie)
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| Above: John Harper and Sarah's children recorded in the
Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Chapel baptism register.
Source: Manchester City Archives: Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Baptism Record 1909-1953 Ref: Box C22/5 C22/24 (Accessed 29 February 2020) |
John Harper and Sarah's youngest child, Maggie, married William BOOTE, an engineering draughtsman, on 31 March 1926 in Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Church, Hyde (GRO ref: Stockport 8a 147).
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| Above: Maggie CROMPTON and William BOOTE's marriage in
the Hoviley Brows wedding register.
Source: Manchester City Archives: Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Marriage Record 1847-1971 Ref: GB127.C22/5 (Accessed 29 February 2020) |
There is no obvious record of Margaret (Maggie) Crompton in the 1921 census, however her husband to be is recorded.
1921 Census: Sun 19th June 1921
Source: RG15; Piece: ;
RegDist number: ; SubDist: ; ED ; Sched: 78;
Reg District: ; Parish:
Dwelling: 16 Higher Henry Street
Place: Hyde, Cheshire
Children under sixteen: 2
BL=Both parents alive; FD=father dead; MD=mother dead
Name Rel Age Mar Occupation Employer Work place Birthplace
Yrs Mn
Joseph Boote Head 49 6 M Felt Hat Dyer James Higinbothan Mount St Derby, Ludworth
Mary Jane Boote Wife 49 4 M Home Duties Cheshire, Hyde
William Boote Son 20 8 S Apprentice Draughtsman Daniel Adamson & Sons Engineering Works, Cheshire, Hyde
Dunkinfield
Florence Boote Dau 14 11 S Assist. in Sample Room Jacobsen Welsh Stationery Newton Mills, Hyde Cheshire, Hyde
Fred Boote Son 8 9 S Whole time school Cheshire, Hyde
Source: GRO Birth Records
Name Registration
District Folio Page Date
Boote Edith m Stockport 8a 24 3rdQt1927
Boote Geoffrey Stockport 8a 29 1stQt1931
Boote Malcolm Stockport 8a 23 3rdQt1933
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| Above: Maggie and William's children recorded in the
Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Chapel baptism register.
Source: Manchester City Archives: Hoviley Brow Primitive Methodist Baptism Record 1909-1953 Ref: Box C22/5 C22/24 (Accessed 29 February 2020) |
| Maggie's home at 213 Dowson Avenue would be at the limit of the photograph and
Primrose Avenue about a mile up on the left.
This picture, of unknown date, shows Dowson Road, built in the 1930s to bypass Gee Cross, at its junction with Stockport Road. The bus is Stockport bound. Stockport Road sweeps in from the right following the tramlines from Gee Cross. There is a clear view of Hyde Chapel and a group of men are sitting on a bench by the finger post sign. Right: Dowson Road in the 1930s |
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| Right: A general view of Dowson Road at the Stockport Road end Source: Author | ![]() |
1939 England and Wales Register 29 September 1939
ED Area code: LFC
ED District code: C
Sched no: 68
Dwelling: 213 Dowson Road
Borough,UD,RD: Hyde, Cheshire
Names Sex D of B Status Personal Occupation Others
Boote William M 12oct1900 M Mechanical engineer (Chief Draftsman) ARP Head warden
Steam & Hydraulic
Boote Maggie F 13jul1894 S Unpaid domestic duties
Redacted
Boote Lottie F 26sep1889 S Builder's clerk
Names are redacted because of the 100 years rule.
Lottie BOOTE's names was ruled through and correct name Crompton was added because the
Register was kept up to date until 1953.
The National Identity Number from this Registration would have been: Enumeration Area code+
Emuneration District code+Schedule number+position in house
William BOOTE died in 06 November 1971 at Dowson Road, leaving £8188 (Probate and GRO ref: Hyde 10a 882) and Maggie on 26 December 1983 (GRO ref: Thameside 39 1781)
Maggie told of:
Additional information supplied by Ian BOOTE and Alison WARNER, whose grandma was Maggie CROMPTON.
John Harper and Sarah Jane's sons
Source: GRO death records
Registration
Name Age District Folio Page Date
Crompton William harper 0 Pocklington 9d 57 4thQt1875
Crompton Richard harper 23 Stockport 8a 6 13oct1901
Crompton Wyril 57 Hyde 8a 113 3rdQt1938
Crompton Henry john 75 Hyde 10 265 ..jul1957
Crompton Francis 12 Stockport 8a 9 24dec1894 aged 10
John Harper and Sarah Jane had five sons, one off whom died before their first birthday, one aged 12 and one at the age of 23. Their two remaining sons Whyrill and Henry John took over the building business as Crompton Brothers and lived in a large attractive Georgian house called Silverdale, at 47 Stockport Road, Hyde. These are detailed in separate information pages.
| More information 1 |
| Joel Lane Primitive Methodist Chapel
Joel Lane Primitive Methodist Chapel was first organised in the 1870's in an old room at the bottom of Joel Lane in Gee Cross. The rent was £4 per annum. Prior to this services were held in a cottage situated lower down than the Werneth Hotel. The Room at the bottom of Joel Lane was really a loft over a stable that was heated by a coal stove in the centre of the premises. It was not uncommon for the services to be interrupted by the grunting of pigs or braying of donkeys. Abraham Lee from Compstall used to lead the singing and accompany it with his cello playing. The foundation stones were laid on the 29th May 1875 by Mrs Horsefield of Slack House and Mrs Thomas Beeley both of Hyde, Mrs Ellis of Grimsby and Mrs John Lee's Buckley of Woodley. The first minister, the Reverend J. Hall, held opening services on 27 February and 05 and 12 March 1876. New classrooms were added in 1884 as the congregation grew and further improvements were carried out in 1904. The Chapel was finally closed in the late 1960's and, after its demolition, a new Close named Buckley Close was built on the site named after one of the layers of the Chapels' original foundation stones. Source: Hyde Name Origins |
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