1821 Info 9a for Caleb Crompton
The descendants of Caleb and Frances -
Elizabeth emily milner and Thomas taylor Forsyth

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Their marriage

After the death of her first husband, William henry Cox, who died in Ballarat Hospital, Elizabeth milner returned to Mount Jeffcott where she married for the second time.

1883 MARRIAGES solemnized in the District of St Arnuad
No. When and where
Married
Name and Surname of the Parties Condition of the Parties Birthplace
Bachelor or Spinster Children by former marriage
Living Dead
349 Residence(?) of Richmond Pettit, St Arnaud
October 12th 1883
Thomas Taylor Forsyth

Elizabeth Milner Cox
Bachelor

Widow
Husband deceased
August 14th 1882
6 - Inverness Scotland
Launceston Tasmania
I, Thomas Augwin, being Wesleyan Minister do hereby certify that I have, this day, at Residence(?) of Richmond Pettit, H?til, Kapen(?) St Arnaud
duly celebrated Marriage between Thomas Taylor Forsyth, Farmer, Mount Jeffcott
and Elizabeth Milner Cox, Mount Jeffcott                                                                                                                           after Notice
and Declarations duly made and published and with written consent of
       Dated this 12th day of October 1883

Rank or Profession Age Residence Parents
Present Usual Name Father's Rank or Profession
Farmer

No profession
28

36
Mount Jeffcott

Mount Jeffcott
Mount Jeffcott

Mount Jeffcott
William Forsyth
Mary Forsyth - Taylor
Caleb Crompton
Francis Louisa Crompton
Lombe
Engineer

Hotel Keeper
Marriage by Licence, was solemnized by us           Thomas Taylor Forsyth
according to the Rites of the Wesleyan Church    Elizabeth Milner Cox
1821 info11, sheet 2

Forsyth origins

In the 1841 Scotland census there are three William Forsyth's, two born about 1811 and one in 1806. Two live in Glasgow, Lanarkshire; of these one lives in the Parish of St Thomas and is a Cotton H[and] L[oom] W[eaver] (Ref: Parish: Glasgow St Thomas; ED: 6; Year: 1841). There are three Mary Taylor's, all born in Lanarkshire in 1821. Two live in Barony Bridgeton and Renfield but one is employed as a Cotton carder in Glasgow St Thomas. The practice of rounding ages to the nearest five years makes further identification difficult.

A more positive identification appears in the 1851 census. Although William Forsyth's occupation in 1851 is given as Shepherd this must be Thomas taylor's family because the census location is Inverness[shire] and because Margaret Taylor, a visiting niece has Mary's maiden name and Thomas' middle name.

1851 Scotland Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851
Source:     Parish: Kilmallie; ED: 6; Page: 1; Line: 3; Roll: 484; Sched: 7; 
Dwelling:   Achnasaul Farm     
Place:      Kilmallie, Inverness, Scotland

Name               Rel   Mar  Age  Occ                  Birthplace 
William Forsyth    Head   M   42   Shepherd             Lanark, Douglas
Mary Forsyth       Wife   M   28                        Lanark, Douglas
Margret Forsyth    Dau         8   Scholar at home      Argyll, Kilmallie
Jannet Forsyth     Dau         6   Scholar at home      Argyll, Kilmallie 
Christian Forsyth  Dau         4   Scholar at home      Argyll, Kilmallie  
Elizabeth Forsyth  Dau         1                        Argyll, Kilmallie  
Margret Taylor     Niece      16   Visitor (seamstress) Lanark, Crawfordjohn
Christian Kerr     Vis        55                        Sutherland, Assynt
John Cameron       Board      47   Assistant Foxtrunter Inverness, Kilmonivaig
John MacQuat       Board      22   Ploughman            Lanark, Douglas
Thomas Scott       Board      24   Shepherd             Inverness, Kintail 
Catherine Munro    Serv       24   House servant        Inverness, Wrynhart, 
Right: Annexed Estates plans and surveys
Plan and survey of Achnasaul (Auchnasaul Farm), Lochiel, Kilmallie, 1774
National Archives of Scotland 000-000-547-855-C
Map showing location of Achnasaul Farm in 1774 - 5Kb jpeg Map showing location of Achnasaul Farm - 95Kb gif
The National Archives of Scotland reference to Achnasaul Farm also contains refers to the 1851 census place of Kilmallie in Invernesshire.

Reference is also made to Lochiel. The modern town of Corpach, in the administrative district of Highland, stands on the shore of Lock Eil.

In the middle of the forest is Lochan Kilmallie.

It is possible to consider that the southern boundary of the 1774 map is the shore of Loch Eil. It may be that the valley of Allt Dogha is etched in to the 1774 map.

This is the best location for Achnasaul Farm found.
1821 info11, sheet 3
Right: A map locating Achnasaul in 1895 

 

Map locating Achnasaul in 1895 - Kb jpeg

From Clan Cameron of Achnacarry  - Source: Clan Cameron Reference

A second location places Achnasaul near the home of the Chief and Captain of Clan Cameron. Cameron of Lochiel's principal residence is in Achnacarry. This is fifteen miles from Corpach and north east of Lochan Kilmallie.

ACHNASAUL / ACHNASOUL / ACHNASSUL / ACHADH NAN SABHAL:
"The Place of the Barn" or "The Field of the Barns/Graneries." A portion of land covered with healthy pasture, dwelling house and farm steading (in 1875) and formerly a small settlement, located approximately one mile beyond the foot of Loch Arkaig, on its north shore, just north-west of Achnacarry. Upon the Estate of Lochiel, circa 1745, with MacPhees as tenants. When surveyed in 1772 Achnasaul consisted of stone houses near the burn side, with "indifferent pasture."  The gravelly soil was fertilized by tathing (confining livestock to manure the land) and laying fern fronds.  It was then used to sow oats and corn.  The Allt Dubh used to overflow its banks routinely, flooding some of the farm land here. A burial ground used to be located near the junction of the Allt Dubh and Loch Arkaig, and was still in used in the late 18th century.

1821 info11, sheet 4
Map location Douglas, Lanarkshire - Kb gif
Above: Map location Douglas, Lanarkshire where William Forsyth was born

Neither a William nor Mary Forsyth, with the appropriate year of birth, is to be found in the 1861 census.


1821 info11, sheet 5

Elizabeth and Thomas' life at Mount Jeffcott

When William Henry died the Mount Jeffcott farm transferred to Elizabeth milner and then, by marriage, to Thomas taylor, who expanded the settlement. The Local Land Board hearing, reported in the Donald Express of 4 April 1884, that:

Thomas Forsyth asked for Sarah Strickland's block Allot. 104a saying that he was 
a labourer on his wife's section. This was granted.

This block of 160 acres, originally 'pegged' on 19 November 1880 by the 19 year old Francis J Bolden, was subsequently forfeited to Sarah Strickland in 1884. On 20 February 1885 the Donald Express reported from the Local Land Board of 1 January 1885 that:

Thomas T Forsyth granted licence of allotment 104bd, not previously opened for 
selection

of an additional 161 acres, making a total of 541 acres.

Thomas taylor Forsyth's lands at Mount Jeffcott in 1885 - 90Kb jpg
Above: Thomas taylor Forsyth's lands at Mount Jeffcott in 1885 Source: Fella RP

There is no definite evidence about when Thomas Forsyth and Elizabeth left the Jeffcott area. Allotment 103, the original settlement, was transferred to T Clarke in 1899. They were certainly gone before 1905 when the title of allotment 104b.d was granted to M McConville and Allotment 104a to Sarah Moore. There is no further reference to the family in the local papers.

1821 info11, sheet 6

The allotments today

Modern photograph of the remians of the Forsyth homestead - 54Kb jpeg Modern photograph of the remians of the Forsyth homestead - 54Kb jpeg
Above: Two views of the remains of the Forsyth house
Looking from Cox land to Forsyth land - 54Kb jpeg Mount Jeffcott 2000 - 44Kb jpeg
Above: Looking from the Cox's land to the Forsyth's land Above: Looking towards Mount Jeffcott
Photographs courtesy Ian Stephens of the Pearson line.

Thomas Forsyth is reported to have died in Melbourne East in 1900.

Elizabeth milner Crompton/Cox/Forsyth is buried at Box Hill, Victoria (to the east of Melbourne).


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