Year 1807 Info 2d for James Crompton |
Agnes Louisa LUND née CROMPTON was my grandfather's sister and my father Geoffrey CROMPTON's aunt, hence she was always known as Aunt Aggie. My family knew that she had emigrated to Sydney Australia, with her husband George William LUND and her two sons, William and Fred or Freddie as my family knew him. It was known that her granddaughter Doreen had married Roy SCRIVENER and that they lived in Macquarie Street in Sydney was common knowledge. Aunt Aggie's eldest child, Annie, was known of but it was believed that she had stayed in the UK. Aggie's Macquarie Street was in Chatswood and is not to be confused with Macquarie Street, Sydney where the NSW parliament and other historical buildings were located. Both streets would have been named after Governor Lachlan Macquarie the governor of NSW in the early part of the 19th century. Macquarie was a great builder both in Sydney and around Parramatta, which is now the demographic centre of greater Sydney.
In 1976, perhaps on their last visit to the UK, my parents and I met Doreen and Roy. It was believed that Roy was employed by Brinton's Carpets of Kidderminster, in their Sydney office.
Their early life
Agnes Louisa CROMPTON was born in the second quarter of 1871 in Preston East Yorkshire (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 132) and George William LUND was born in the fourth quarter of 1866 in Market Weighton (GRO ref: Pocklington 9d 67).
Agnes Louise CROMPTON married George William LUND in the second
quarter of 1893 (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 248), Sculcoates being a district of
Hull, with her wedding likely to be at the parish church of Preston, where the family
lived. The 1891 census shows Agnes to be a domestic servant in Sutton East Yorkshire.
Right: Preston Church 2016 Author: June 2016 |
1881 Census Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG10 Piece: 4752; Folio: 44; Page: 1; Sched: 1 Dwelling: 1 Stakes Row Place: Preston, York ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Thomas Edmund Crompton Head Wid 41 Market gardener Yorks, Meltham Edmond Thomas Crompton Son 11 Scholar Norfolk, Hoxen Agenes Louisa Crompton Dau 9 Scholar Yorks, Preston Arthur Crompton Son 6 Scholar Yorks, Preston Albert Crompton Son 4 Yorks, Preston
Right: Stakes Row now Staithes Road (centre), Preston |
1891 Census Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG12 Piece: ; Folio: ; Page: 20; Sched: 66 Dwelling: Church Mount, High Street Place: Sutton, Yorks ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace Henry W Brodrick Head M 73 Livery on own means Yorks, Kingston upon Hull Hannah B Brodwick Wife M 67 Yorks, Kingston upon Hull Agnes L Crompton Serv S 19 House maid Domestic serv Yorks, Preston Hannah Newton Serv S 18 Cook Yorks, Normanby
In 1891 George William LUND was already living in Denton, Manchester, though he was born in Market Weighton, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
1891 Census Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG12 Piece: 3284; Folio: 140; Page: 140; Sched: 47-48 Dwelling: 28, Pearl Street Place: Denton, Lancs, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace William Stopford Head M 33 Bricklayer Employed Lancs, Droylsden Mary H Stopford Wife M 34 Lancs, Droylsden Fanny Stopford Dau S 9 Scholar Lancs, Droylsden William Stopford Son S 8 Scholar Lancs, Droylsden George Lund Boar S 24 Bricklayer Employed Yorks, Market Weighton
1881 Census Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG11 Piece: 4734; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Sched: 81 Dwelling: Northgate Place: Market Weighton, York ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace William Lund Head M 72 Retired gardener Yorks, Middleton Hannah Lund Wife M 72 Yorks, Goodmanham George Lund Gson S 14 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton
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George Lund at work - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. A building site with George Lund and the mysterious Frank Jackson - positions unknown. Before 1911 | 2. The reverse of the photograph which refers to Frank Jackson being George Lund's step brother |
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Quite why Agnes met George is unknown. Sutton is 20km from Market Weighton. However, Market Weighton is 7km from the home of John Harper CROMPTON a builder of Holme-on-Spalding Moor, later of Hyde, Manchester, who was Agnes' uncle. He may have been employed by the KNEESHAWs, builders of Market Weighton. The KNEESHAWs were the family of John Harper's wife, Sarah Jane. Denton is 1.5 miles (2.6km) from Hyde.
Their children
The FamilySearch of the Latter Day Saints and Ancestry contain the parish baptism registers for Christ Church, Denton, Manchester. These record the christening of three children of George William and Agnes Louisa LUND. In every record George William is recorded as a bricklayer and it is possible he was employed building rows of terraced houses for the industrial worker. The Ashton-under-Lyne registration district contains both Denton and Audenshaw - see 1901 census. 1
Annie
Annie was born in the third quarter of 1894 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 489) and was
christened on 14 October 1896 when the family were living at 78 Heaton Street, Denton.
She died in the third quarter of 1907 aged 13 (GRO ref: Ashton 6d 208). In 2022,
Heaton Street and surrounding area is a light industrial area of modern buildings and a
converted cotton mill.
Left: Agnes and George with their first child, Annie taken in Denton circa 1895 2 |
Above: A composite image of Annie Lund's baptism record |
William, known as Bill
William (Bill) was born in the fourth quarter of 1896 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 540)
and was christened on 14 October 1896 when the family were living at Lime Grove,
Hyde Road, Denton.
Right: A typical view of Lime Grove, Denton in 2022 In 2022 the average price of Lime Grove was £122,754 or A$227,000 |
Above: A composite image of William Lund's baptism record |
Clarissa
Above: A composite image of Clarissa Lund's baptism record. Note the phonetic spelling of Clarissa |
Clarissa, was born 25 February 1900 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 568). She died in
the first quarter of 1900 after her christening on 13 March 1900 (GRO ref: Ashton
8d 477) when the family were living at 120 Stockport Road, Denton.
Right: 120 Stockport Road, Denton in 2022, which is the white door next to the Indian Takeaway. This looks to be the first three bed roomed terraced house. In 2017 this property was sold for £95,000, which is equivalent to £102,000 or A$189,000 at 2021 values |
Fred
Above: A composite image of Fred Lund's baptism record |
Fred was born in the third quarter of 1902 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 540) and was
christened at St Stephens, Audenshaw on 13 July 1902. The family lived at 16 Garden
Street and George's trade was now a builder.
Right: 16 Garden Street, Audenshaw in 2022. The 2022 value of the house was £154,000 or A$285,500. |
1901 Census Sun/Mon 31st March/1st April 1901 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG13 Piece: 3787; Folio: 41; Page: 27; Sched: 16 Dwelling: 16 Garden Street [M34 5DD] Place: Audenshaw, Cheshire, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace George Lund Head M 34 Foreman bricklayer Worker Yorks, Market Weighton Agnes Lund Wife M 29 Yorks, Preston Annie Lund Dau 6 Lancs, Denton William Lund Son 4 Lancs, Denton Frank Jackson B-i-L S 16 Apprentice bricklayer Worker Yorks, Market Weighton
Above: Map locating Lund homes in Denton showing the closeness of their movement, all in the Manchester M34 post code. |
The map above shows where the family lived between 1894 and the 1901 census. Though they moved house the locations were were in a 1.5km radius. By the time of the 1911 census the family had moved 60 miles (90km) to Washwood Heath to the north-east of Birmingham. This shows that the family were not fixed to one location and that a home in a Waverley is a possibility. There is a Waverley Road in Small Heath, Birmingham.
1911 Census: Sun/Mon 2nd April/3rd April 1911 Source: TNA Ref: RG14 PN Reg. Gen. Ref: RG78 PN 18365; En.Dist: 46; Sched: 185 RegDist: Ashton SubDist: Erdinton Dwelling: 201 Highfield Road Place: Washwood Heath, Warwickshire Rooms in dwelling, other than scullery, landing, lobby, closet, bathroom: 6 Years married: 18 Children: Alive 2, dead 2 Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace George William Lund Head M 44 Bricklayer, railway contractor Worker Yorks, Market Weighton Agnes Lund Wife M 39 Yorks, Preston William Lund Son S 14 Lancs, Denton Fred Lund Son 8 School Lancs, Hooley Hill Frank Jackson Bro S 26 Bricklayer Builders Worker Yorks, Market Weighton
The photograph is labelled 'Taken November 1910 Mi__thill Road, Waverley'.
The boys are identified as Bill and Fred. The girls are unidentified though the
writer asks if the middle girl is Annie? However, Annie died in the third quarter of
1907!
There is a Waverley east of Sheffield and south of Rotherham, though this appears to be a new build village. Right labelled: Lund boys with Annie back centre, Mi__thill Road, Waverley, 1910 Source: Glenys Hubbard |
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The Lund family prior to 1907 - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. Left to right: Frank Jackson, Billie, Annie, Annie who died in 1907, Fred, George William c1907 | 2. The reverse of the photograph showing the relationship of Frank Jackson |
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The mysterious Frank JACKSON
The status of Frank JACKSON is still not clear. He was born in the second quarter of 1884 (GRO ref: Pocklington 9d 83 which includes Market Weighton). His birth certificate clarifies that Hannah JACKSON was a LUND before her marriage living in Middleton-in-Tessdale, County Durham. His baptism record shows he was baptised on 13 September 1884 in Market Weighton, with William and Hannah JACKSON as parents.
Superintendent Registrar's District Pocklington | ||||||||
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Registrar's Sub-District Market Weighton | ||||||||
1884 BIRTHS in Sub-district of Market Weighton in the County of York | ||||||||
No | When and where born |
Name | Sex | Name of father |
Name of mother |
Rank or Profession |
Informant | When Registered |
15 | Seventh April 1884 Northgate Market Weighton RSD | Frank | Boy | William Jackson |
Hannah Jackson formerly Lund |
Cordwainer | William Jackson Father Northgate Market Weighton | Twenty fourth May 1884 |
1881 Census Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG11 Piece: 4734; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Sched: 82 Dwelling: Northgate Place: Market Weighton, York ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace William Jackson Head M 29 Shoemaker Yorks, Seaton Ross Hannah Jackson Wife M 35 Yorks, Middleton Annie M Jackson Dau S 3 Yorks Market Weighton Henry Jackson Son S 2 Yorks Market Weighton Alfred Jackson Son S 1 Yorks Market Weighton
Hannah, née Lund, and William were married in the second quarter of 1876 (GRO ref: Hull 9d 389). In the 1891 census Frank was living with his parents in Market Weighton, one of six children who, in the early days of their marriage, appeared at regular yearly intervals.
1891 Census Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG12 Piece: 3901; Folio: 9; Page: 11; Sched: 78 Dwelling: Northgate Place: Market Weighton, Yorks ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace William Jackson Head M 38 Shoemaker Worker Yorks, Seaton Ross Hannah Jackson Wife M 45 Yorks, Middleton Henry Jackson Son S 12 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton Alfred Jackson Son S 11 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton William Jackson Son S 10 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton Eva Jackson Dau S 8 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton Frank Jackson Son S 7 Scholar Yorks, Market Weighton Elsie Jackson Dau S 3 Yorks, Market Weighton
In the 1901 census Hannah was a widow with only one daughter, Sarah born 1862, living at home. Hannah was living at Rift House, Queen Street in Middleton-on-Teesdale where six boarders all over the age of 25 lived. Hannah died in the fourth quarter of 1921 aged 75. (GRO ref: Bridlington 9d 408).
In 1901, Frank JACKSON was living with George and Agnes LUND (Agnes née CROMPTON) in Cheshire. It is possible that the family had moved to the Cheshire area where worker's houses were being built to accommodate the growing numbers of mill workers. This census incorrectly identifies Frank as a brother-in-law to the head of the house. As a brother-in-law he would be related to George's wife who was Agnes CROMPTON. If Frank's mother, Hannah JACKSON, was formally a LUND then it is possible that Hannah LUND was the sister of Agnes LUND, though there is a wide difference in their ages and Hannah appears to have left home to work as a domestic servant. Perhaps the census enumerator lacked a category for the formal relationship. There does not appear any way of establishing this relationship.
1901 Census Sun/Mon 31st March/1st April 1901 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG13 Piece: 3787; Folio: 41; Page: 27; Sched: 16 Dwelling: 16 Garden Street [M34 5DD] Place: Audenshaw, Cheshire, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace George Lund Head M 34 Foreman bricklayer Worker Yorks, Market Weighton Agnes Lund Wife M 29 Yorks, Preston Annie Lund Dau 6 Lancs, Denton William Lund Son 4 Lancs, Denton Frank Jackson B-i-L S 16 Apprentice bricklayer Worker Yorks, Market Weighton
In 1911, Frank is recorded as brother to George LUND making him a LUND. However, in the 1881 census the fourteen year old George LUND is the only grandson living with his 74 year old grandparents and it seems unlikely that he had a brother Frank LUND born in 1885.
1911 Census: Sun/Mon 2nd April/3rd April 1911 Source: TNA Ref: RG14 PN Reg. Gen. Ref: RG78 PN 18365; En.Dist: 46; Sched: 185 RegDist: Ashton SubDist: Erdington Dwelling: 201 Highfield Road Place: Washwood Heath, Warwickshire Rooms in dwelling, other than scullery, landing, lobby, closet, bathroom: 6 Years married: 18 Children: Alive 2, dead 2 Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Status Birthplace George William Lund Head M 44 Bricklayer, railway contractor Worker Yorks, Market Weighton Agnes Lund Wife M 39 Yorks, Preston William Lund Son S 14 Lancs, Denton Fred Lund Son 8 School Lancs, Hooley Hill Frank Jackson Bro S 26 Bricklayer Builders Worker Yorks, Market Weighton
Frank JACKSON' emigration and immigration to Australia is unclear.
The inscription in Frank's bible suggests that it was given to him when he went to war in 1915. It mentions his 'loving brother and sister'. Quite who the 'mother' and 'sister' is, is unknown. However, it is likely to be an Australian relative. An unknown JACKSON? Or Agnes and an unknown Lund sister. Right: Inside Frank Jackson's bible Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Right: Frank Jackson's bible cover Source: Glenys Hubbard
Frank JACKSON appears on several family photographs. Frequently, the text on the reverse identifies him as George LUND's step brother and suggests a close family tie. |
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Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - front | 2. Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - back |
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On his World War One attestation papers of 5 December 1915, he gives his address as Gordon Road, Chatswood, NSW, now part of the Pacific Highway. Aged 31 years and six months, being born circa 1884, he declares he was born in Market Weighton, East Yorkshire, which supports the census. His next of kin was his mother who lived in Northgate, Market Weighton. He is still a bricklayer by trade.
On his enlistment to 'A' Coy, of the 12th Reinforcements of the 20th
Battalion, 5th Brigade, 2nd Division, at Casula Camp, Sydney, Frank was 5 foot six
inches (168cm), with a chest of 34½ inches (88cm) expanding by 3 inches (8cm). His
complexion was dark having tanned-up (still a current family trait), with dark eyes
and dark brown hair.
He proceeded overseas on 09 September 1916 on HMAT A40 Ceramic, being taken on the units strength on 19 October 1916 at Steenvoorde, Belgium, where the Battalion was in Corps Reserve throughout October. The War Diary does not mention his arrival or that of the 12th Reinforcements. Right: 20 Battalion patch |
Frank Jackson attestation papers show that he spent a considerable time in various aid posts and hospitals. The 20 Battalions activities from the unit War Diaries, to locate Frank in the context of time, are inserted in italics.
11/4/17 First Battle of Bullecourt was essentially an action involving the 4th Brigade, in which there were 2258 casualties, and 12th Brigade AIF with 909 casualties. Prior to the battle 20th Battalion were based at Mametz Camp (62DNE2 F4.d.5.c,d) where they were involved in training and relaxation, including bathing on the day of the battle. Afternoon orders to move off were canceled and were not restored until midnight 11/12 April 1917 when the Battalion prepared to march to Vaulx Vraucourt (57CNW2) where they went into Reserve. On 15/4/17 the War Diary places the Battalion on stand to. They were in contact with the enemy who had broken through the line and captured guns of 2nd AFA. ‘B’ Coy were sent to support ‘A’ Coy on the right and the enemy were driven back and the guns recaptured. Casualties were light with six killed and 14 OR sent to hospital. Again, Frank missed the action.
The 20th Battalion were not directly involved in the Battle of Broodseinde, which took place on 04 October 1917. Frank's medical record reports his 'blighty' gun shot wound on 10 October 1917 when the Battalion, who were in Support, took over badly battered and rain collapsed trenches, which were subjected, from time to time, to violent bombardments and casualties were continuous. The Battalion was relieved that night. In an action of 8 October, the Battalion in the support trenches were shelled heavily and casualties were numerous. At 5.40am an enemy barrage came down behind the jumping-off line and on the support line in preparation an attack that morning on a two-mile front. It is unclear which of these two dates was the date of the actual wound. Removing the wounded, by stretcher bearers to Zonnebeke, was a distance of 1000 yards through a quagmire stretched the endurance of the stretcher bearers.
It is not known whether GSW was a generic term for any wound as it would seem Frank may have been wounded by shell fragments. It seems strange that a wound described as 'slight' resulted in a n hospital ship to a UK hospital in Dartmouth.
Finally Frank was returned to Australia and discharged. It is possible to image the complications varicose veins caused to an infantry man.
Frank remains a real mystery. Some of this mystery is resolved by his death notice, which explains his relationship to the family. However, if Frank Jackson was a step brother he would have a surname of Crompton, if related to Agnes or Lund if related to George William LUND. The attached photograph records him as the step brother of George LUND.
Right: Frank Jackson's death notice Source: Trove Sydney Morning Herald Saturday 2 November 1940, page 12 |
Hannah JACKSON née LUND- his mother
Frank's birth certificate records his mother as Hannah JACKSON née LUND.
There are three Hannah LUND registered between 1840 and 1860. Two were recorded in the York registration district and one in Driffield, which seems the most appropriate. This Hannah LUND was born in the third quarter of 1845 in the Driffield district, which includes Middleton 13km from Market Weighton. (GRO ref: Driffield 9d 32).
In the 1851 census Hannah's father is not listed. Perhaps, as a shepherd, he was out in the fields. Five children are recorded. Londesborough is 4km from Market Weighton.
1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref H1O7 Piece: 2357; Folio: 483; Page: 14; Sched: Dwelling: Rubbing House Place: Londesborough, York ER, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Hannah Lund Wife M 44 Shepherds wife Yorks, Goodmanham William Lund Son S 12 Scholar Yorks, Middleton Mary Lund Dau S 15 Scholar Yorks, Middleton Naome Lund Dau S 8 Scholar Yorks, Middleton Hannah Lund Dau S 5 Yorks, Middleton Margaret Lund Dau S 3 Yorks, Middleton
Ten years later Hannah was a servant in the Market Weighton house of Edwin Hartley, a police superintendent. In 1871, she was still a servant/house keeper in Bielby, 9km from Market Weighton.
Hannah married William JACKSON in the second quarter of 1876 in the Hull registration district (GRO ref: Hull 9d 389). This is a huge area of the East Riding/Humberside but does not include Market Weighton. William JACKSON was born in Seaton Ross in the first quarter of 1853 (GRO ref: Hull 9d 155). The son of a shoemaker, he followed his father's trade.
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Life in Australia
The Lunds, with William and Fred, together with the mysterious Frank LUND (perhaps Frank JACKSON), left London on the Orient Line's Orvieto on 19 January 1912, bound for Sydney.
Above: Agnes Lund's emigration record 3 Click on the document to open a scalable image in a new window |
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1. RMS Orvieto 2. RMS Orvieto third class cabin 1913 |
3. RMS Orvieto departing London 1919 |
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Above: A composite image of Agnes Lund's immigration
record with the passengers on the right and the crew on the left. 5 Click on the document to open a scalable image in a new window |
The Orviento arrived in Sydney on 27 February 1912. Note that William LUND is not on the arrivals list, nor is he named in any of the 24 pages of passengers. He may have disembarked at Melbourne, the prior port of call. However, passengers for Brisbane are listed together. The second anomaly is that the mysterious Frank LUND is listed as a passenger.
George and Agnes lived in a house near the top of Gordon Road, Chatswood, a few doors down from an Anglican church, now on the Pacific Highway.
The Australian Electoral Roll records that Agnes and George were in Sydney as early as 1913 living, with 'Frank' at
Sands Postal Directory for 1914 records Frank JACKSON under his own name living at Gordon rd, Chatswood. However, it is not possible to identify him in the 1915, 1920 and 1932 directories. There is no obvious Frank JACKSON, born in Lancashire/UK enlisting in the AIF or in Ancestry's Electoral Roll. A Frank JACKSON died in Chatswood, with the correct age of 56 years, in 1940 (NSW BMD ref: 22136/1940).
It has not been possible to trace Frank LUND/JACKSON any further in the Electoral
Rolls.
In the 1930 Roll the family have moved into Macquarie Street for the first time ... Right: 59 Macquarie Street Chatswood |
... but in 1933 with George unemployed there was a move, a forced move ...
Right: An undated photograph of a more mature Agnes Lund |
In 2022, there is no Grenville Street in Artarmon or indeed anywhere on the North
Shore of Sydney, though Council boundaries have changed a few times. Richard Lund
believes this refers to Grenville Street in Chatswood and crosses with Fullers Road
down near the entrance to the old Chatswood rifle range site. The present 120 Greville
Street is located on the site is a 1950/60's bungalow. However, there are a number of
examples of other houses in the street that are representative of the correct period.
Right: An example of a 1950/60 Chatswood Road 2022 bungalow |
On Tuesday 02 May 1922 the Sydney Telegraph reported a burglary at Macquarie Street. |
The family lived at Grenville Street until 1937, the year of Georges death (NSW Justice ref: 14567/1937) when Aunt Aggie moved back to Macquarie Street, next door to her previous address. She lived there, with the Scriveners, until the time of her death on 26 June 1959 (NSW Justice ref: 20743/1954)
Right and above: Various newspaper notices concerning Agnes Louisa's death |
William LUND (Bill) - the second child of Agnes and George
William was born in the fourth quarter of 1896 (GRO ref: Ashton Under Lyne 8d 540)
and died after 1987, which is the end of the New South Wales on-line death
records. In 1922 he married Helen M EASTON in Chatswood (NSW Justice ref:
15306/1922), who doesn't appear to have either birth or death records.
Right: The LUND brothers: Bill on the left and Fred on the right Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Sand directory of Sydney postal directories records
until 1927 and then 1930, with no intermediary records.
The Australian Electoral Rolls for 1930, which show William and Helen living at:
... until 1968 when their home was numbered 24
Bill worked in water conservation as an engineer with a reserved occupation in
World War 2. He retired as Chairman of NSW Water Conservation. His son Ken worked for
Mobil up to the time of his retirement. 7
Right: The much altered 24 Bent Street, Sydney - December 2020 |
Bill's daughter Jan married Allan GUEST. The Guest family owned furniture stores in Victoria State. The company was sold to Freedom Furniture and the family reinvented themselves with a high-end furniture business as part of the Guest Group run by Bill Jnr possibly from Artamon in Sydney. 8
Fred LUND - fourth child of Agnes and George
Fred was born in the third quarter of 1902 (GRO ref: Ashton Under Lyne 8d 540).
Above: A young Fred Lund Source: Glenys Hubbard | Above: A later studio photograph of Fred Lund Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Above: Believed to be Fred Lund on the right Source: Glenys Hubbard | Above Believed to be Fred Lund on the right with unknown sergeant Source: Glenys Hubbard |
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Fred's birthday card from Agnes - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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In 1925 Fred married Hilda M DONOVAN, born in Waverley in 1902 (NSW Justice ref: 8262/1902), in Chatswood (NSW Justice ref: 11238/1925).
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1. The family wedding group 1925 with Mr and Mrs Donovan (?) | 2. The bride and groom 3. The invitation |
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Mr and Mrs RJ Donovan request the pleasure of Mr & Mrs G Lunds' (sic) at the marriage of their daughter Hilda May with Fred Lund at the Methodist Church Street, Clanwilliam Street, Willoughby Thursday 6th August 1925 at 3.30pm Later at Parents Residence. (Albert Avenue, Chatswood) Note: The Willoughby Uniting Church is still on the same street, though extensively modernised.
Hilda died in childbirth in Griffith, NSW in 1926 (NSW Justice ref: 9698/1926). The story Richard LUND was told was that Fred came back from Griffith on the train with a coffin and baby Doreen. He feels this had a major affect on Fred for the rest of his life. In 1931,
Above: Hilda Lund's funeral bill |
The Australian Electoral Rolls show Fred, before his second marriage living at:
Fred was married for a second time to Mary REEVES (NSW Justice ref: 212/1931), who was registered in St Leonards, North Sydney (NSW births 18056/1907) and died in Chatswood on 26 June1967 (NSW Justice ref: 25818/1967, registered as St Leonards district).
On their marriage Fred and Mary lived at ...
Right: Fred and Mary's house in Orange |
They moved within Orange to
The final recorded move was back to Sydney ...
...where they may have been living at the time of their death in 1966 and 1967.
In more recent years, the house was renumbered to 20.
Fred, an engineer in the World War 2 oil industry for Mobil in the Grafton area of NSW, used his mechanical skills to keep the Atco in perfect working order. Right: Fred Lund with his beloved Atco grass cutter at 20 Crook Road, Linfield, NSW Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Fred died at Wahroonga on 27 November 1966 (NSW Justice ref: 38594/1966 in the St Leonards district and was buried, along side his wife, at Macquarie Park Cemetery, North Ryde, NSW, 6km from Cook Road. Mary died on 26 June 1967.
Richard LUND Fred's second child by his second marriage to Mary REEVE. Richard finished an arts degree whilst working for the Navy. He then worked for the Australia Council, which was part of the Prime Ministers' department, where he studied law part-time. On graduation he worked for the Metal Trades Industry Association as legal officer and then as an in house lawyer/company secretary for Caltex for 10 years. For the rest of his career he was as a partner /special counsel in three law firms.
Doreen SCRIVENER née LUND
Fred and Hilda's daughter Doreen was born on 30 March 1926 at Leeton, New
South Wales.
Right: Possibly a photograph of Doreen Lund at an early age Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Doreen married Roy Elvine SCRIVENER in Chatswood in 1946 (NSW Justice ref: 10879/1946) and were known by Geoff CROMPTON, his cousin, to have lived in Macquarie Street, [Sydney]. The Australian Electoral Roll records:
In the 1963 Roll, Roy's brother's family had moved.
... where they remained until the final Roll of 1980, though Roy had changed his occupation.
Above: Doreen, Peter Scrivener and Richard Lund December 1954 Source: Glenys Hubbard | Above: Doreen Scrivener, Robyn Lund Peter Scrivener, Agnes, Richard Lund c.1955 Source: Glenys Hubbard |
Left: 57 Macquarie Street Chatswood, the Scrivener's home for many years |
Doreen died on 26 October 2008 in Dubbo, New South Wales. Roy was, for a long time secretary of the HMAS Hobart Association and an Australian representative for Brinton Carpets of Kidderminster. In that role he visited Geoff Crompton at his home in 1976.
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