Year 1807 Info 2d for James Crompton
Agnes Louisa CROMPTON



Agnes Louisa LUND née CROMPTON was my grandfather's sister and my father Geoffrey CROMPTON's aunt, hence she was always known as Aunt Aggie. My family knew that she had emigrated to Sydney Australia, with her husband George William LUND and her two sons, William and Fred or Freddie as my family knew him. It was known that her granddaughter Doreen had married Roy SCRIVENER and that they lived in Macquarie Street in Sydney was common knowledge. Aunt Aggie's eldest child, Annie, was known of but it was believed that she had stayed in the UK. Aggie's Macquarie Street was in Chatswood and is not to be confused with Macquarie Street, Sydney where the NSW parliament and other historical buildings were located. Both streets would have been named after Governor Lachlan Macquarie the governor of NSW in the early part of the 19th century. Macquarie was a great builder both in Sydney and around Parramatta, which is now the demographic centre of greater Sydney.

In 1976, perhaps on their last visit to the UK, my parents and I met Doreen and Roy. It was believed that Roy was employed by Brinton's Carpets of Kidderminster, in their Sydney office.

Their early life

Agnes Louisa CROMPTON was born in the second quarter of 1871 in Preston East Yorkshire (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 132) and George William LUND was born in the fourth quarter of 1866 in Market Weighton (GRO ref: Pocklington 9d 67).

Agnes Louise CROMPTON married George William LUND in the second quarter of 1893 (GRO ref: Sculcoates 9d 248), Sculcoates being a district of Hull, with her wedding likely to be at the parish church of Preston, where the family lived. The 1891 census shows Agnes to be a domestic servant in Sutton East Yorkshire.




Right: Preston Church 2016 Author: June 2016
Preston Church 2016 - 41kB jpg
1881 Census  Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881
Source:      FHL Film  TNA Ref RG10
             Piece: 4752; Folio: 44; Page: 1; Sched: 1   
Dwelling:    1 Stakes Row
Place:       Preston, York ER, England

Name                     Rel  Mar Age  Occupation           Birthplace
Thomas Edmund Crompton  Head  Wid  41  Market gardener  Yorks, Meltham
Edmond Thomas Crompton   Son       11  Scholar          Norfolk, Hoxen
Agenes Louisa Crompton   Dau        9  Scholar          Yorks, Preston
Arthur Crompton          Son        6  Scholar          Yorks, Preston
Albert Crompton          Son        4                   Yorks, Preston
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Right: Stakes Row now Staithes Road (centre), Preston Thomas Edmund Staithes Road 1 - 25kB jpg
1891 Census   Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891
Source:       FHL Film  TNA Ref RG12
              Piece: ;  Folio: ;  Page: 20;  Sched: 66
Dwelling:     Church Mount, High Street
Place:        Sutton, Yorks ER, England

Name              Rel  Mar Age Occupation              Status    Birthplace
Henry W Brodrick  Head  M   73 Livery on own means               Yorks, Kingston upon Hull
Hannah B Brodwick Wife  M   67                                   Yorks, Kingston upon Hull
Agnes L Crompton  Serv  S   19 House maid Domestic serv          Yorks, Preston
Hannah Newton     Serv  S   18 Cook                              Yorks, Normanby

In 1891 George William LUND was already living in Denton, Manchester, though he was born in Market Weighton, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.

1891 Census   Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891
Source:       FHL Film  TNA Ref RG12
              Piece: 3284;  Folio: 140;  Page: 140;  Sched: 47-48
Dwelling:     28, Pearl Street
Place:        Denton, Lancs, England

Name              Rel Mar Age Occupation    Status    Birthplace
William Stopford Head  M  33  Bricklayer    Employed  Lancs, Droylsden
Mary H Stopford  Wife  M  34                          Lancs, Droylsden
Fanny Stopford    Dau  S   9  Scholar                 Lancs, Droylsden 
William Stopford  Son  S   8  Scholar                 Lancs, Droylsden 
George Lund      Boar  S  24  Bricklayer    Employed  Yorks, Market Weighton
1881 Census  Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881
Source:      FHL Film  TNA Ref RG11 
             Piece: 4734;  Folio: 10;  Page: 14;  Sched: 81                      
Dwelling:    Northgate 
Place:       Market Weighton, York ER, England

Name           Rel  Mar Age Occupation        Birthplace
William Lund  Head   M  72  Retired gardener  Yorks, Middleton
Hannah Lund   Wife   M  72                    Yorks, Goodmanham
George Lund   Gson   S  14  Scholar           Yorks, Market Weighton
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Hoverbox Photo Gallery - George Lund at work - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. A building site with George Lund and the mysterious Frank Jackson - positions unknown. Before 1911   2. The reverse of the photograph which refers to Frank Jackson being George Lund's step brother
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Geoff Crompton at 23 Egerton Road Wembley c.1941 - 31kB jpg Geoff Crompton at 23 Egerton Road Wembley c.1941 - 31kB jpg Geoff and Joan Crompton at 23 Egerton Road Wembley Februay 1946 - 32kB jpg Geoff and Joan Crompton at 23 Egerton Road Wembley Februay 1946 - 32kB jpg

Quite why Agnes met George is unknown. Sutton is 20km from Market Weighton. However, Market Weighton is 7km from the home of John Harper CROMPTON a builder of Holme-on-Spalding Moor, later of Hyde, Manchester, who was Agnes' uncle. He may have been employed by the KNEESHAWs, builders of Market Weighton. The KNEESHAWs were the family of John Harper's wife, Sarah Jane. Denton is 1.5 miles (2.6km) from Hyde.

Their children

The FamilySearch of the Latter Day Saints and Ancestry contain the parish baptism registers for Christ Church, Denton, Manchester. These record the christening of three children of George William and Agnes Louisa LUND. In every record George William is recorded as a bricklayer and it is possible he was employed building rows of terraced houses for the industrial worker. The Ashton-under-Lyne registration district contains both Denton and Audenshaw - see 1901 census. 1

Annie

Agnes Crompton/Lund 1896 - 17kB jpg Annie was born in the third quarter of 1894 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 489) and was christened on 14 October 1896 when the family were living at 78 Heaton Street, Denton. She died in the third quarter of 1907 aged 13 (GRO ref: Ashton 6d 208). In 2022, Heaton Street and surrounding area is a light industrial area of modern buildings and a converted cotton mill.












Left: Agnes and George with their first child, Annie taken in Denton circa 1895 2
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Annie Lund's baptism record - 50kB jpg
Above: A composite image of Annie Lund's baptism record

William, known as Bill

William (Bill) was born in the fourth quarter of 1896 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 540) and was christened on 14 October 1896 when the family were living at Lime Grove, Hyde Road, Denton.






Right: A typical view of Lime Grove, Denton in 2022 In 2022 the average price of Lime Grove was £122,754 or A$227,000
Lime Grove, Denton - 52kB jpg
William Lund's baptism record - 35kB jpg
Above: A composite image of William Lund's baptism record

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Clarissa

Clarissa Lund's baptism record - 61kB jpg
Above: A composite image of Clarissa Lund's baptism record. Note the phonetic spelling of Clarissa
Clarissa, was born 25 February 1900 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 568). She died in the first quarter of 1900 after her christening on 13 March 1900 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 477) when the family were living at 120 Stockport Road, Denton.












Right: 120 Stockport Road, Denton in 2022, which is the white door next to the Indian Takeaway. This looks to be the first three bed roomed terraced house. In 2017 this property was sold for £95,000, which is equivalent to £102,000 or A$189,000 at 2021 values
120 Stockport Road, Denton - 76kB jpg
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Fred

Fred Lund's baptism record - 50kB jpg
Above: A composite image of Fred Lund's baptism record
Fred was born in the third quarter of 1902 (GRO ref: Ashton 8d 540) and was christened at St Stephens, Audenshaw on 13 July 1902. The family lived at 16 Garden Street and George's trade was now a builder.




















Right: 16 Garden Street, Audenshaw in 2022. The 2022 value of the house was £154,000 or A$285,500.
16 Garden Street, Audenshaw - 42kB jpg
1901 Census   Sun/Mon 31st March/1st April 1901
Source:       FHL Film  TNA Ref RG13
              Piece: 3787; Folio: 41; Page: 27; Sched: 16
Dwelling:     16 Garden Street  [M34 5DD]
Place:        Audenshaw, Cheshire, England

Name           Rel  Mar Age  Occupation             Status  Birthplace
George Lund    Head  M  34   Foreman bricklayer     Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
Agnes Lund     Wife  M  29                                  Yorks, Preston
Annie Lund      Dau      6                                  Lancs, Denton
William Lund    Son      4                                  Lancs, Denton 
Frank Jackson  B-i-L S  16   Apprentice bricklayer  Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
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Map locating Lund homes in Denton - 134kB jpg
Above: Map locating Lund homes in Denton showing the closeness of their movement, all in the Manchester M34 post code.

The map above shows where the family lived between 1894 and the 1901 census. Though they moved house the locations were were in a 1.5km radius. By the time of the 1911 census the family had moved 60 miles (90km) to Washwood Heath to the north-east of Birmingham. This shows that the family were not fixed to one location and that a home in a Waverley is a possibility. There is a Waverley Road in Small Heath, Birmingham.

1911 Census:      Sun/Mon 2nd April/3rd April 1911
Source:   TNA Ref:        RG14 PN  
          Reg. Gen. Ref:  RG78 PN 18365; En.Dist: 46; Sched: 185
          RegDist: Ashton SubDist: Erdinton
Dwelling: 201 Highfield Road             
Place:    Washwood Heath, Warwickshire              
Rooms in dwelling, other than scullery, landing, lobby, closet, bathroom: 6
Years married: 18         
Children:      Alive 2, dead 2 

Name                 Rel  Mar Age  Occupation                      Status  Birthplace 
George William Lund  Head  M   44  Bricklayer, railway contractor  Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
Agnes Lund           Wife  M   39                                          Yorks, Preston
William Lund          Son  S   14                                          Lancs, Denton
Fred Lund             Son       8  School                                  Lancs, Hooley Hill
Frank Jackson         Bro  S   26  Bricklayer Builders             Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
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The photograph is labelled 'Taken November 1910 Mi__thill Road, Waverley'. The boys are identified as Bill and Fred. The girls are unidentified though the writer asks if the middle girl is Annie? However, Annie died in the third quarter of 1907!

There is a Waverley east of Sheffield and south of Rotherham, though this appears to be a new build village.

Right labelled: Lund boys with Annie back centre, Mi__thill Road, Waverley, 1910 Source: Glenys Hubbard
Lund boys, Waverley, 1910 - 29kB jpg

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - The Lund family prior to 1907 - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. Left to right: Frank Jackson, Billie, Annie, Annie who died in 1907, Fred, George William c1907   2. The reverse of the photograph showing the relationship of Frank Jackson
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Annie George Lund Frank Jackson c1907 front - 34kB jpg Annie George Lund Frank Jackson c1912 front - 34kB jpg Annie George Lund Frank Jackson c1907 back - 38kB jpg Annie George Lund Frank Jackson c1907 back - 38kB jpg

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The mysterious Frank JACKSON

The status of Frank JACKSON is still not clear. He was born in the second quarter of 1884 (GRO ref: Pocklington 9d 83 which includes Market Weighton). His birth certificate clarifies that Hannah JACKSON was a LUND before her marriage living in Middleton-in-Tessdale, County Durham. His baptism record shows he was baptised on 13 September 1884 in Market Weighton, with William and Hannah JACKSON as parents.

Superintendent Registrar's District Pocklington
Registrar's Sub-District Market Weighton
1884 BIRTHS in Sub-district of Market Weighton in the County of York
No When and
where born
Name Sex Name of
father
Name of
mother
Rank or
Profession
Informant When
Registered
15 Seventh April 1884 Northgate Market Weighton RSD Frank Boy William
Jackson
Hannah
Jackson
formerly
Lund
Cordwainer William Jackson Father Northgate Market Weighton Twenty fourth May
1884
1881 Census  Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881
Source:      FHL Film  TNA Ref RG11 
             Piece: 4734;  Folio: 10;  Page: 14;  Sched: 82                       
Dwelling:    Northgate 
Place:       Market Weighton, York ER, England

Name              Rel  Mar Age Occupation  Birthplace
William Jackson  Head   M  29  Shoemaker   Yorks, Seaton Ross    
Hannah Jackson   Wife   M  35              Yorks, Middleton
Annie M Jackson   Dau   S  3               Yorks Market Weighton
Henry Jackson     Son   S  2               Yorks Market Weighton
Alfred Jackson    Son   S  1               Yorks Market Weighton

Hannah, née Lund, and William were married in the second quarter of 1876 (GRO ref: Hull 9d 389). In the 1891 census Frank was living with his parents in Market Weighton, one of six children who, in the early days of their marriage, appeared at regular yearly intervals.

1891 Census   Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891
Source:       FHL Film  TNA Ref RG12
              Piece: 3901; Folio: 9; Page: 11; Sched: 78
Dwelling:     Northgate
Place:        Market Weighton, Yorks ER, England

Name              Rel Mar Age Occupation              Status    Birthplace
William Jackson  Head  M   38 Shoemaker               Worker    Yorks, Seaton Ross
Hannah Jackson   Wife  M   45                                   Yorks, Middleton
Henry Jackson     Son  S   12 Scholar                           Yorks, Market Weighton
Alfred Jackson    Son  S   11 Scholar                           Yorks, Market Weighton
William Jackson   Son  S   10 Scholar                           Yorks, Market Weighton
Eva Jackson       Dau  S    8 Scholar                           Yorks, Market Weighton
Frank Jackson     Son  S    7 Scholar                           Yorks, Market Weighton
Elsie Jackson     Dau  S    3                                   Yorks, Market Weighton

In the 1901 census Hannah was a widow with only one daughter, Sarah born 1862, living at home. Hannah was living at Rift House, Queen Street in Middleton-on-Teesdale where six boarders all over the age of 25 lived. Hannah died in the fourth quarter of 1921 aged 75. (GRO ref: Bridlington 9d 408).

In 1901, Frank JACKSON was living with George and Agnes LUND (Agnes née CROMPTON) in Cheshire. It is possible that the family had moved to the Cheshire area where worker's houses were being built to accommodate the growing numbers of mill workers. This census incorrectly identifies Frank as a brother-in-law to the head of the house. As a brother-in-law he would be related to George's wife who was Agnes CROMPTON. If Frank's mother, Hannah JACKSON, was formally a LUND then it is possible that Hannah LUND was the sister of Agnes LUND, though there is a wide difference in their ages and Hannah appears to have left home to work as a domestic servant. Perhaps the census enumerator lacked a category for the formal relationship. There does not appear any way of establishing this relationship.

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1901 Census   Sun/Mon 31st March/1st April 1901
Source:       FHL Film  TNA Ref RG13
              Piece: 3787; Folio: 41; Page: 27; Sched: 16
Dwelling:     16 Garden Street  [M34 5DD]
Place:        Audenshaw, Cheshire, England

Name           Rel  Mar Age  Occupation             Status  Birthplace
George Lund    Head  M  34   Foreman bricklayer     Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
Agnes Lund     Wife  M  29                                  Yorks, Preston
Annie Lund      Dau      6                                  Lancs, Denton
William Lund    Son      4                                  Lancs, Denton 
Frank Jackson  B-i-L S  16   Apprentice bricklayer  Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton

In 1911, Frank is recorded as brother to George LUND making him a LUND. However, in the 1881 census the fourteen year old George LUND is the only grandson living with his 74 year old grandparents and it seems unlikely that he had a brother Frank LUND born in 1885.

1911 Census:      Sun/Mon 2nd April/3rd April 1911
Source:   TNA Ref:        RG14 PN  
          Reg. Gen. Ref:  RG78 PN 18365; En.Dist: 46; Sched: 185
          RegDist: Ashton SubDist: Erdington
Dwelling: 201 Highfield Road             
Place:    Washwood Heath, Warwickshire              
Rooms in dwelling, other than scullery, landing, lobby, closet, bathroom: 6
Years married: 18         
Children:      Alive 2, dead 2 

Name                 Rel  Mar Age  Occupation                      Status  Birthplace 
George William Lund  Head  M   44  Bricklayer, railway contractor  Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
Agnes Lund           Wife  M   39                                          Yorks, Preston
William Lund          Son  S   14                                          Lancs, Denton
Fred Lund             Son       8  School                                  Lancs, Hooley Hill
Frank Jackson         Bro  S   26  Bricklayer Builders             Worker  Yorks, Market Weighton
Frank JACKSON' emigration and immigration to Australia is unclear.

The inscription in Frank's bible suggests that it was given to him when he went to war in 1915. It mentions his 'loving brother and sister'. Quite who the 'mother' and 'sister' is, is unknown. However, it is likely to be an Australian relative. An unknown JACKSON? Or Agnes and an unknown Lund sister.

Right: Inside Frank Jackson's bible Source: Glenys Hubbard
Frank Jackson's bible inside - 46kB jpg
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Right: Frank Jackson's bible cover Source: Glenys Hubbard

Frank JACKSON appears on several family photographs. Frequently, the text on the reverse identifies him as George LUND's step brother and suggests a close family tie.
Frank Jackson's bible cover - 21kB jpg

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - front   2. Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - back
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Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - front - 52kB jpg Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - front - 52kB jpg Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - back - 52kB jpg Agnes, George Lund, Frank Jackson c.1915 - back - 52kB jpg

On his World War One attestation papers of 5 December 1915, he gives his address as Gordon Road, Chatswood, NSW, now part of the Pacific Highway. Aged 31 years and six months, being born circa 1884, he declares he was born in Market Weighton, East Yorkshire, which supports the census. His next of kin was his mother who lived in Northgate, Market Weighton. He is still a bricklayer by trade.

On his enlistment to 'A' Coy, of the 12th Reinforcements of the 20th Battalion, 5th Brigade, 2nd Division, at Casula Camp, Sydney, Frank was 5 foot six inches (168cm), with a chest of 34½ inches (88cm) expanding by 3 inches (8cm). His complexion was dark having tanned-up (still a current family trait), with dark eyes and dark brown hair.

He proceeded overseas on 09 September 1916 on HMAT A40 Ceramic, being taken on the units strength on 19 October 1916 at Steenvoorde, Belgium, where the Battalion was in Corps Reserve throughout October. The War Diary does not mention his arrival or that of the 12th Reinforcements.

Right: 20 Battalion patch
20 Bn colour patch - kB jpg

Frank Jackson attestation papers show that he spent a considerable time in various aid posts and hospitals. The 20 Battalions activities from the unit War Diaries, to locate Frank in the context of time, are inserted in italics.

11/4/17 First Battle of Bullecourt was essentially an action involving the 4th Brigade, in which there were 2258 casualties, and 12th Brigade AIF with 909 casualties. Prior to the battle 20th Battalion were based at Mametz Camp (62DNE2 F4.d.5.c,d) where they were involved in training and relaxation, including bathing on the day of the battle. Afternoon orders to move off were canceled and were not restored until midnight 11/12 April 1917 when the Battalion prepared to march to Vaulx Vraucourt (57CNW2) where they went into Reserve. On 15/4/17 the War Diary places the Battalion on stand to. They were in contact with the enemy who had broken through the line and captured guns of 2nd AFA. ‘B’ Coy were sent to support ‘A’ Coy on the right and the enemy were driven back and the guns recaptured. Casualties were light with six killed and 14 OR sent to hospital. Again, Frank missed the action.

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The 20th Battalion were not directly involved in the Battle of Broodseinde, which took place on 04 October 1917. Frank's medical record reports his 'blighty' gun shot wound on 10 October 1917 when the Battalion, who were in Support, took over badly battered and rain collapsed trenches, which were subjected, from time to time, to violent bombardments and casualties were continuous. The Battalion was relieved that night. In an action of 8 October, the Battalion in the support trenches were shelled heavily and casualties were numerous. At 5.40am an enemy barrage came down behind the jumping-off line and on the support line in preparation an attack that morning on a two-mile front. It is unclear which of these two dates was the date of the actual wound. Removing the wounded, by stretcher bearers to Zonnebeke, was a distance of 1000 yards through a quagmire stretched the endurance of the stretcher bearers.

It is not known whether GSW was a generic term for any wound as it would seem Frank may have been wounded by shell fragments. It seems strange that a wound described as 'slight' resulted in a n hospital ship to a UK hospital in Dartmouth.

Finally Frank was returned to Australia and discharged. It is possible to image the complications varicose veins caused to an infantry man.

Frank remains a real mystery. Some of this mystery is resolved by his death notice, which explains his relationship to the family. However, if Frank Jackson was a step brother he would have a surname of Crompton, if related to Agnes or Lund if related to George William LUND. The attached photograph records him as the step brother of George LUND.

Right: Frank Jackson's death notice Source: Trove Sydney Morning Herald Saturday 2 November 1940, page 12 Frank Jackson's death notice - 13kB jpg

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Hannah JACKSON née LUND- his mother

Frank's birth certificate records his mother as Hannah JACKSON née LUND.

There are three Hannah LUND registered between 1840 and 1860. Two were recorded in the York registration district and one in Driffield, which seems the most appropriate. This Hannah LUND was born in the third quarter of 1845 in the Driffield district, which includes Middleton 13km from Market Weighton. (GRO ref: Driffield 9d 32).

In the 1851 census Hannah's father is not listed. Perhaps, as a shepherd, he was out in the fields. Five children are recorded. Londesborough is 4km from Market Weighton.

1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851
Source:     FHL Film  TNA Ref H1O7
            Piece: 2357; Folio: 483; Page: 14; Sched: 
Dwelling:   Rubbing House    
Place:      Londesborough, York ER, England

Name            Rel   Mar  Age  Occupation                  Birthplace 
Hannah Lund   Wife    M    44  Shepherds wife              Yorks, Goodmanham
William Lund   Son    S    12  Scholar                     Yorks, Middleton
Mary Lund      Dau    S    15  Scholar                     Yorks, Middleton
Naome Lund     Dau    S     8  Scholar                     Yorks, Middleton
Hannah Lund    Dau    S     5                              Yorks, Middleton               
Margaret Lund  Dau    S     3                              Yorks, Middleton

Ten years later Hannah was a servant in the Market Weighton house of Edwin Hartley, a police superintendent. In 1871, she was still a servant/house keeper in Bielby, 9km from Market Weighton.

Hannah married William JACKSON in the second quarter of 1876 in the Hull registration district (GRO ref: Hull 9d 389). This is a huge area of the East Riding/Humberside but does not include Market Weighton. William JACKSON was born in Seaton Ross in the first quarter of 1853 (GRO ref: Hull 9d 155). The son of a shoemaker, he followed his father's trade.


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Life in Australia

The Lunds, with William and Fred, together with the mysterious Frank LUND (perhaps Frank JACKSON), left London on the Orient Line's Orvieto on 19 January 1912, bound for Sydney.

Agnes Lund's emigration record - 44kB jpg Agnes Lund's emigration record - 44kB jpg
Above: Agnes Lund's emigration record 3
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Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Orient Line RMS Orvieto 4

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1. RMS Orvieto
2. RMS Orvieto third class cabin 1913
3. RMS Orvieto departing London 1919
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Agnes Lund's immigration record - 24kB jpg Agnes Lund's immigration record - 24kB jpg
Above: A composite image of Agnes Lund's immigration record with the passengers on the right and the crew on the left. 5
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The Orviento arrived in Sydney on 27 February 1912. Note that William LUND is not on the arrivals list, nor is he named in any of the 24 pages of passengers. He may have disembarked at Melbourne, the prior port of call. However, passengers for Brisbane are listed together. The second anomaly is that the mysterious Frank LUND is listed as a passenger.

George and Agnes lived in a house near the top of Gordon Road, Chatswood, a few doors down from an Anglican church, now on the Pacific Highway.

The Australian Electoral Roll records that Agnes and George were in Sydney as early as 1913 living, with 'Frank' at

Sands Postal Directory for 1914 records Frank JACKSON under his own name living at Gordon rd, Chatswood. However, it is not possible to identify him in the 1915, 1920 and 1932 directories. There is no obvious Frank JACKSON, born in Lancashire/UK enlisting in the AIF or in Ancestry's Electoral Roll. A Frank JACKSON died in Chatswood, with the correct age of 56 years, in 1940 (NSW BMD ref: 22136/1940).

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It has not been possible to trace Frank LUND/JACKSON any further in the Electoral Rolls.

In the 1930 Roll the family have moved into Macquarie Street for the first time ...

Right: 59 Macquarie Street Chatswood
59 Macquarie Street Chatswood - 44kB jpg

... but in 1933 with George unemployed there was a move, a forced move ...

Right: An undated photograph of a more mature Agnes Lund Agnes Lund undated - 24kB jpg
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In 2022, there is no Grenville Street in Artarmon or indeed anywhere on the North Shore of Sydney, though Council boundaries have changed a few times. Richard Lund believes this refers to Grenville Street in Chatswood and crosses with Fullers Road down near the entrance to the old Chatswood rifle range site. The present 120 Greville Street is located on the site is a 1950/60's bungalow. However, there are a number of examples of other houses in the street that are representative of the correct period.

Right: An example of a 1950/60 Chatswood Road 2022 bungalow
Chatworth Road 2022 - 67kB jpg

Sydney Telegraph banner 02may1922 - 15kB jpg
Telegraph 02may1922 - 21kB jpg   On Tuesday 02 May 1922 the Sydney Telegraph reported a burglary at Macquarie Street.

The family lived at Grenville Street until 1937, the year of Georges death (NSW Justice ref: 14567/1937) when Aunt Aggie moved back to Macquarie Street, next door to her previous address. She lived there, with the Scriveners, until the time of her death on  26 June 1959 (NSW Justice ref: 20743/1954)

Agnes Lund's death notice - 28kB jpg Agnes Lund's death notice - 34kB jpg
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Right and above: Various newspaper notices concerning Agnes Louisa's death Agnes Lund's death notice - 24kB jpg

William LUND (Bill) - the second child of Agnes and George

William was born in the fourth quarter of 1896 (GRO ref: Ashton Under Lyne 8d 540) and died after 1987, which is the end of the New South Wales on-line death records. In 1922 he married Helen M EASTON in Chatswood (NSW Justice ref: 15306/1922), who doesn't appear to have either birth or death records.

Right: The LUND brothers: Bill on the left and Fred on the right Source: Glenys Hubbard
Bill Lund left Frank Lund right - 23kB jpg

Sand directory of Sydney postal directories records

until 1927 and then 1930, with no intermediary records.

The Australian Electoral Rolls for 1930, which show William and Helen living at:

... until 1968 when their home was numbered 24

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Bill worked in water conservation as an engineer with a reserved occupation in World War 2. He retired as Chairman of NSW Water Conservation. His son Ken worked for Mobil up to the time of his retirement. 7

Right: The much altered 24 Bent Street, Sydney - December 2020
24 Bent Street, Sydney - 40kB jpg

Bill's daughter Jan married Allan GUEST. The Guest family owned furniture stores in Victoria State. The company was sold to Freedom Furniture and the family reinvented themselves with a high-end furniture business as part of the Guest Group run by Bill Jnr possibly from Artamon in Sydney. 8


Fred LUND - fourth child of Agnes and George

Fred was born in the third quarter of 1902 (GRO ref: Ashton Under Lyne 8d 540).

Fred Lund as a child - 16kB jpg Fred Lund - 27kB jpg
Above: A young Fred Lund Source: Glenys Hubbard Above: A later studio photograph of Fred Lund Source: Glenys Hubbard
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Above: Believed to be Fred Lund on the right Source: Glenys Hubbard   Above Believed to be Fred Lund on the right with unknown sergeant Source: Glenys Hubbard

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Fred's birthday card from Agnes - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. Birthday card - front 2. Birthday card - back
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Fred Lund's birthday card front - 44kB jpg Fred Lund's birthday card front - 44kB jpg Fred Lund's birthday card back - 29kB jpg Fred Lund's birthday card back - 29kB jpg

In 1925 Fred married Hilda M DONOVAN, born in Waverley in 1902 (NSW Justice ref: 8262/1902), in Chatswood (NSW Justice ref: 11238/1925).

Hoverbox Photo Gallery - Fred Lund and Hilda's wedding - Source: Glenys Hubbard
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1. The family wedding group 1925 with Mr and Mrs Donovan (?) 2. The bride and groom
3. The invitation
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Fred Lund and Hilda's wedding group 1925 - 27kB jpg Fred Lund and Hilda's wedding group 1925 - 27kB jpg Fred Lund and Hilda's wedding bride and groom - 24kB jpg Fred Lund and Hilda's wedding bride and groom - 24kB jpg Fred and Hilda's wedding invitation - 29kB jpg Fred and Hilda's wedding invitation - 29kB jpg

Mr and Mrs RJ Donovan request the pleasure of Mr & Mrs G Lunds' (sic) at the marriage of their daughter Hilda May with Fred Lund at the Methodist Church Street, Clanwilliam Street, Willoughby Thursday 6th August 1925 at 3.30pm Later at Parents Residence. (Albert Avenue, Chatswood) Note: The Willoughby Uniting Church is still on the same street, though extensively modernised.

Hilda died in childbirth in Griffith, NSW in 1926 (NSW Justice ref: 9698/1926). The story Richard LUND was told was that Fred came back from Griffith on the train with a coffin and baby Doreen. He feels this had a major affect on Fred for the rest of his life. In 1931,

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Hilda Lund's funeral bill - 62kB jpg
Above: Hilda Lund's funeral bill

The Australian Electoral Rolls show Fred, before his second marriage living at:

Fred was married for a second time to Mary REEVES (NSW Justice ref: 212/1931), who was registered in St Leonards, North Sydney (NSW births 18056/1907) and died in Chatswood on 26 June1967 (NSW Justice ref: 25818/1967, registered as St Leonards district).

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On their marriage Fred and Mary lived at ...

  • 1931, 6217, Lund, Fred, 48 Hill street, engineer, Orange a sub-district of Calare
  • 1931, 6128, Lund, Mary, 48 Hill street, hd, Orange a sub-district of Calare
... which is four blocks west from where Caleb Crompton died in 1915.

Right: Fred and Mary's house in Orange
Fred and Mary's house in Orange - 78kB jpg

They moved within Orange to

The final recorded move was back to Sydney ...

...where they may have been living at the time of their death in 1966 and 1967. In more recent years, the house was renumbered to 20.

Fred, an engineer in the World War 2 oil industry for Mobil in the Grafton area of NSW, used his mechanical skills to keep the Atco in perfect working order.

Right: Fred Lund with his beloved Atco grass cutter at 20 Crook Road, Linfield, NSW Source: Glenys Hubbard
Fred Lund 20 Crook Road - 38kB jpg

Fred died at Wahroonga on 27 November 1966 (NSW Justice ref: 38594/1966 in the St Leonards district and was buried, along side his wife, at Macquarie Park Cemetery, North Ryde, NSW, 6km from Cook Road. Mary died on 26 June 1967.

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Richard LUND Fred's second child by his second marriage to Mary REEVE. Richard finished an arts degree whilst working for the Navy. He then worked for the Australia Council, which was part of the Prime Ministers' department, where he studied law part-time. On graduation he worked for the Metal Trades Industry Association as legal officer and then as an in house lawyer/company secretary for Caltex for 10 years. For the rest of his career he was as a partner /special counsel in three law firms.


Doreen SCRIVENER née LUND

Fred and Hilda's daughter Doreen was born on 30 March 1926 at Leeton, New South Wales.

Right: Possibly a photograph of Doreen Lund at an early age Source: Glenys Hubbard
Possibly Doreen Lund - kB jpg

Doreen married Roy Elvine SCRIVENER in Chatswood in 1946 (NSW Justice ref: 10879/1946) and were known by Geoff CROMPTON, his cousin, to have lived in Macquarie Street, [Sydney]. The Australian Electoral Roll records:

In the 1963 Roll, Roy's brother's family had moved.

... where they remained until the final Roll of 1980, though Roy had changed his occupation.

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Doreen, Peter Scrivener & Richard Lund Dec1954 - 25kB jpg Lund family c.1955 - 29kB jpg
Above: Doreen, Peter Scrivener and Richard Lund December 1954 Source: Glenys Hubbard Above: Doreen Scrivener, Robyn Lund
Peter Scrivener, Agnes, Richard Lund c.1955 Source: Glenys Hubbard
57 Macquaire Steet Chatswood - 50kB jpg Left: 57 Macquarie Street Chatswood, the Scrivener's home for many years

Doreen died on 26 October 2008 in Dubbo, New South Wales. Roy was, for a long time secretary of the HMAS Hobart Association and an Australian representative for Brinton Carpets of Kidderminster. In that role he visited Geoff Crompton at his home in 1976.

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End notes

  1. All Baptism sources: Ancestry: <Card Collection> <Keyword> Manchester Church of England Births and Baptism 1813-1915.
  2. Source - Alison Warner, with thanks
  3. Ancestry UK passenger lists
  4. The Orient Lines' 1213 tons RMS Orvieto built in 1909 for their Australian passengers and mail service via Fremantle, Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. The Orvieto accommodated 235 first class passenger, 186 second class passenger and 696 third class passengers.
  5. Ancestry New South Wales immigration passenger lists
  6. Sands Postal Directory Sydney 1924 Part 12 - Alphabetical Directory - Jen-McL (01/01/1924 - 31/12/1924), [A-01136739]. City of Sydney Archives, (Accessed: 29 December 2021)
  7. Source - Richard Lund
  8. ibid

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