1611 Info 4: The Cromptons of Breightmet
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|Extract from Beatrix Potter Journal © National Trust|
Potter origins and Crompton marriage
James Potter 1710-1770, a flax merchant of Hindley and later New Market Place, Manchester | |=========|| John of Ardwick Green, Manchester b. d. | m.19sep1765 Cathedral, Manchester | Catherine Daughter of Daniel Eccles of Macclesfield b.07nov1745 c. St Michael, Macclesfield, Cheshire d. | |======================|===========|============|===========|=========|| John Son 2 James Daughter 1 Daughter 2 b......~1766 b.....~1772 d. d. | | m.17dec1795 Blackburn m.02nov1799 | | Sarah Greenaway Mary More of Ardwick Green b. b.....~1774 d. d. | |
|=========|| |=========|| Charles Edmund b......~1798 b.25jan1802 c.05apr1802 d......1883 Charles and Edmond founded | Dinting Vale Printworks. m.....~1829 (LDS estimate) | Jessica Crompton of Lancaster b.....~1801 d.3rdQt1891 Hatfield 3a 206 |
|============|===========|============|========|=========|========|======|| Edmund Clara Rupert Walter Will H Mary Lucy crompton b.....~1832 d.2ndQt1914 | m.3rdQt1863 Stockport 8a 119 | Helen Leech b.15apr1839 c.26Sep1839 d. | |=================|=============|| helen walter Beatrix Bertram b.28jul1866 b......1872 d.22dec1943 d.
1841 Census Sun/Mon 6/7 June 1841 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref HO107 Piece: 580 Book: 19 Folio: 11 Page: 14/15 Dwelling: Green Heys Place: Cholton upon Medlock, Manchester, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Born in County Edmund Potter Head M 39 Calico Printer Y Jessey Potter Wife M 40 Y Edmund C Potter Son 10 Y Clara Potter Dau 9 Y Rupert Potter Son 8 Y Walter Potter Son 7 Y Will H Potter Son 6 Y Mary Potter Dau 3 Y Lucy Potter Dau 1 Y Note: Ages are usually rounded down to the nearest five years.
By 1842 Edmund POTTER had made enough money to build a new home for his family. Dinting Lodge stood near to the Printworks, overlooking the small reservoirs which fed the mill and surrounded by trees. A driveway led across a carved wooden bridge over the Glossop Brook, passing between hedges of rhododendrons to the front door.
1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref H1O7 Piece: 2152 Folio: 312 Page: 27 Sched: 98 Dwelling: Dinting Vale Place: Dinting, Hayfield, Manchester, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Edmund Potter Head M 49 Calico Printer Lancs, Manchester Jessy Potter Wife M 49 Lancs, Chorley Edmund Potter Son U 20 Apprentice Calico Printer Lancs, Manchester 500 hands employed Will H Y Potter Son U 16 Scholar Lancs, Manchester Mary Potter Dau 13 At home Lancs, Manchester Lucy Potter Dau 10 At home Lancs, Manchester Ellen Roylance Serv U 35 House Servant Cheshire, Stockport Eliza Jones Serv U 24 House Servant Cheshire, Mold Marion Smith Serv U 35 House Servant Yorks, York
1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref H1O7 Piece: 2171 Folio: 164 Page: 14 Sched: 48 Dwelling: Chapel House Farm Place: Saighton, Chester, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Thomas Potter Vis U 21 Student of the Inner Temple B.A. Lancs, Manchester
This is the best match. Though recorded as Thomas, Ancestry has a Glossop Heritage correction to Rupert.
1861 Census Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG09 Piece: 2626 Folio: 88 Page: 5 Sched: 15a Dwelling: Queens Hotel, Flookersbrook (Best Western, City Road?) Place: Boughton, Cheshire, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert* Potter Vis U 28 Barrister practising Lancs, Manchester Edmund Potter Vis M 59 Calico printer Lancs, Manchester Edmund Crompton Potter Vis U 30 Calico printer Lancs, Manchester *transcribed as Robert
1871 Census Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG10 Piece: 1374; Folio: 160; Page: 22; Sched: 124 Dwelling: Campsfield House Place: Essenden, Hertfordshire, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Edmond Potter Head M 69 Calico printer & land owner Lancs, Manchester Jessy Potter Wife M 69 Lancs, Chorley Clara Potter Dau U 39 Lancs, Manchester Clara Wood Vis Wid 71 Lancs, Chorley Arthur F Wiker Serv U 46 Butler Somerset, Bath George Edwards Serv U 17 Under Butler Wilts, Market Lewough Rebana Jones Serv U 31 Domestic servant Herts, Reed Frances B Webb Serv U 29 Domestic servant Decon, Colyton Zipporah Robinson Serv U 25 Domestic servant Derby, Hatfield Louisa Rundall Serv U 23 Domestic servant Herts, Hoddesdon Fanny Rundall Serv U 18 Domestic servant Herts, Hoddesdon Norman Snoxall Graoom U 23 Groom Beds, Leeton Morey Bowin Serv U 22 Domestic servant Camarthen, Llanelly
By 1871, having married in 1863, Rupert has established his own home and Helen Beatrix has been born, The family remain at 2 Bolton Garden until the 1911 census. Rupert died in 1914.
1871 Census Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG10 Piece: 53 Folio: 83 Page: 43/44 Sched Dwelling: 2 Bolton Gardens Place: Kensington, Brompton, Middlesex, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert Potter Head M 38 A Barrister in practice Lancs, Manchester Helen Potter Wife M 31 Cheshire, Dunkenfield Helen Beatrix Potter Dau 4 Middlesex, Brompton Henry G Louch Serv 30 Butler Middlesex, Uxbridge Sarah Lowe Serv 38 Cook Derbyshire, Edale Ann Mackenzie Serv 44 Nurse Invernesshire Sarah Wallers? Serv 33 Housemaid Derbyshire, Bestley Jane Peers Serv 18 Housemaid Cheshire, Mere
1881 Census Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG11 Piece: 46 Folio: 9 Page: 14/15 Sched Dwelling: 2 Bolton Gardens Place: Kensington, Brompton, Middlesex, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert Potter Head M 48 Barrister Lancs, Manchester Helen Potter Wife M 41 Cheshire, Dunkenfield Helen Beatrice Potter Dau 14 Scholar Middlesex, Kensington Walter Bertram Potter Son 9 George Cox Serv M 44 Butler Dorset, Blanford Sarah Harper Serv U 36 Domestic Servant Cheshire, Stockport Elizabeth Harper Serv U 35 Domestic Servant Derbyshire, Beard Catherine Fraser Serv U 24 Domestic Servant Scotland Isabella Dewar Serv U 20 Domestic Servant Scotland John Charles Wilson Vis M 49 Barrister Middlesex, Marylebone
1891 Census Sun/Mon 5/6th April 1891 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG12 Piece: 33; Folio 99; Page 71; Sched: 323 Dwelling: 2 Bolton Gardens Place: Brompton, Kensington, Middlesex, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert Potter Head M 58 Retired Barrister at Law Lancs, Manchester Helen Potter Wife M 51 Cheshire, Dunkenfield Helen B Potter Dau U 24 Middlesex, Kensington Walter B Potter Son U 19 Student at Oxford Middlesex, Kensington George Cox Serv U 55 Butler/Domestic Dorset, Blanford St. Mary Elizabeth Harper Serv U 45 Housemaid/Domestic Derbyshire, Beard Maria Shelbourne Serv U 16 Kitchenmaid/Domestic Yorkshire, Doncaster Elizabeth Wooff Serv U 17 Under housemaid/Domestic Westmorland, Belton
1901 Census Sun/Mon 31st March/1st April 1901 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG13 Piece: 36; Folio: 118; Page: 48; Sched: 287 Dwelling: 2 Bolton Gardens Place: Brompton, Kensington, Middlesex, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert Potter Head M 68 Retired Barrister at Law Lancs, Manchester Helen Potter Wife M 61 Cheshire, Dunkenfield Helen B Potter Dau U 34 Middlesex, Old Brompton Walter B Potter Son U 29 Artist/Painter Middlesex, Old Brompton Sarah Harper Serv U 58 Cook/Domestic Cheshire, Stockport Elizabeth Harper Serv U 55 Housemaid/Domestic Derbyshire, Beard Ada Head Serv U 23 Kitchenmaid/Domestic Herts, Ware Annie Woodford Serv U 19 Housemaid/Domestic Herts, Ware
1911 Census: Sun/Mon 2nd April/3rd April 1911 Source: TNA Ref: RG14 PN124; En.Dist: 37; Sched: 387 Reg. Gen. Ref: RG78 PN RegDist: Kensington SubDist: Kensington South Dwelling: 2 Bolton Garden Place: South Kensington, London Rooms in dwelling, other than scullery, landing, lobby, closet, bathroom: 16 Years married: 47 Children: Alive 2, dead none Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Rupert Potter Head M 78 Barrister At Law Retired Lancashire, Manchester Helen Potter Wife M 71 Cheshire, Dukinfield Helen Beatrix Potter Dau S 44 Authoress Middlesex, London Elizabeth Harper Serv S 65 Cook Domestic Derbyshire, Beard Helen Wilkinson Serv S 22 Parlour Maid Domestic Lancashire, Italy Bridge Ada Howard Serv S 27 Housemaid Domestic Derbyshire, Bakewell Daisy Quartermaine Serv S 17 Under Housemaid Domestic Oxon, Garssington Rose Hedger Serv S 17 Kitchen Maid Domestic Oxon, Oxford
John Leech b.20oct1801 at Gorse Hall, Dukinfield, Cheshire c.22nov1801 at Presbyterian Chaple, Dukinfield d.23apr1861 at Gorse Hall, Dukinfield, Cheshire age 59 | m.06jun1832 Hyde | Jane Ashton, daughter of Thomas Ashton and Harriet Booth. =//==|========|| b.23mar1809 Ashton c.26mar1809 Gee Cross Uniterian, Hyde, Cheshire b.19oct1841 d.1stQt1884 aged 74, Ashton under Lyne 8d 383 c. | d...nov1841 | Children born Dunkinfield |===========|===========|===========|===========|===========|===========|===========//== Jane Harriet John William Elizabeth Helen Mary b.14jun1833 b.20aug1834 b.05aug1835 b.24aug1836 b.09nov1837 b.15apr1839 b.10sep1840 c.29jul1833 c.24sep1834 c. c. c.1838 c.26Sep1839 c. d......1876 d. d.29oct1870 d.08mar1887 d.14jan1865 d. d...dec1840 | | m.junqt1862 m.08aug1863 | | Walter Rupert Potter Potter b.....~1832 d.2ndQt1914 Kensington 1a 118 | |===========|=========|| helen walter Beatrix Bertram b.28jul1866 b......1872 d.22dec1943 d.
Source: Leech family Lancashire Rootsweb archives
1841 Census Sun/Mon 6/7 June 1841 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref HO107 Piece: 109 Book: 13 Folio: 6 Page: 6-7 Dwelling: Gorse Hall Place: Dunkinfield, Cheshire, England Name Age Occupation Born in County John Leech 39 Cotton Spinery Y Jane Leech 30 Y Jane Leech 8 Y Harriet Leech 7 Y John Leech (Jnr) 6 Y William Leech 5 Y Elizabeth Leech 3 Y Helen Leech 2 Y Thomas Rathasuph 35 MS Ann Herbert 40 FS Elizabeth Hill 29 FS Hannah Fear 20 FS Kitty Hurt 40 FS John Crashtree 50 MS Sarah Ishlewood 40 FS Helen Leech was born 15 April 1839 at Dunkinfield, Cheshire, England and christened: 26 September 1839 at Old Presbyterian Chapel, Dukinfield, IGI Ref: Co76441 Note: Ages are usually rounded down to the nearest five years.
1851 Census Sun/Mon 30/31st March 1851 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref H1O7 Piece: 1480 Folio: 845 Page: 15-16 Sched: 53 Dwelling: Palace Gardens Place: Knightsbridge, Westminster, London, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace John Leech Head M 49 General Merchant Lancashire, Stanlybridge Jane Leech Wife M 42 Cheshire, Hyde Jane Leech Dau U 17 Scholar at home Cheshire, Dunkinfield Harriet Leech Dau U 16 Scholar at home Cheshire, Dunkinfield John Leech Son U 15 Scholar Cheshire, Dunkinfield Wm Leech Son 14 Scholar Cheshire, Dunkinfield Eliz Leech Dau 13 Scholar Cheshire, Dunkinfield Helen Leech Dau 11 Scholar Cheshire, Dunkinfield Harriet Ashton Vist Wid 65 Cheshire, Motham? Harriet Ashton Vist U 40 Cheshire, Hyde William Sharp Serv U 22 Yorkshire John Barnett Serv U 13 Hannah Pace Serv U 54 Ann Hebbert Serv U 51 Elizah Louise Serv U 37 Eliza Hackworth Serv U 35 Eliza Allott Serv U 37 Eliza Barlass Serv U 26
1861 Census Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG09 Piece: 2995 Folio Page Sched Dwelling: Gorse Hall Place: Dunkinfield, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Gorse Hall is not listed in District 15. It is possible that John sold it or it was unoccupied. However, the Enumerator, in his District description, lists it as Mr Leech's Masion, Gorse Hall.
1871 Census Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG10 Piece: 131 Folio: 75 Page: 13 Sched Dwelling: 20 Palace Gardens Place: Knightsbridge, London, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Jane Leech Head W 62 Interest of Money Cheshire, Hyde Jane Leech Dau U 37 Cheshire, Dunkinfield Edith Potter Gdau 7 Lancs, Manchester Edmund Potter Gson 6 Lancs, Manchester Ann Newsome Serv U 36 Nurse William Andrews Serv U 38 Butler Mary Hughes Serv U 29 Cook Jane Hopkins Serv U 34 House maid Ellen Wingfield Serv U 27 Ladies maid Mary Boyer Serv U 21 House maid Betsey Wardle Serv U 21 Kitchen maid Frederick W Lily Serv U 21 Footman
It is possible that Edith and Edmund POTTER are the children of Walter POTTER and Elizabeth Leech. Elizabeth died 14 January 1865, perhaps explaining why the children were with their grandmother and why later, in the 1881 census. the two children went to boarding schools.
1881 Census Sun/Mon 2/3rd April 1881 Source: FHL Film TNA Ref RG11 Piece: 121 Folio: 47 Page: 11 Sched: 46 Dwelling: 20 Palace Garden House Place: Westmister, London, England Name Rel Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Jane Leech Head Wid 72 Annuitant Cheshire, Hyde Ada B Smalllfield Comp U 24 Companion Surrey, Kingsland Ellen Wingfield Serv U 36 Maid domestic Lancs, Eccles Jane Hopkins Serv U 48 Cook domestic Yorks, Ossett Mary A Sharp Serv U 28 Housemiad domestic Barronhen?? Jemima E. Lampard Serv U 27 Housemaid domestic Surrey, Dorking Eliza E. Oakley Serv U 15 Kitchen domestic Yorks, Ossett Kennet T. Mc Lennon Serv U 36 Butler ??? Row William B. Westcott Serv U 21 Footman Somerset, Bishop Lydeard
Extract from The Friends of Gorse Hall
Helen Leech and Rupert POTTER were married on 08 August 1863 at Gee Cross, Stockport, Cheshire.
|John Leech, one of the many wealthy cotton manufacturers of the district,
bought land from Mr. Astley to build his mills. His son John bought the Gorse Hall estate
and with stone from the local quarries built a “New” Gorse Hall mansion in
1835/6. He laid out formal gardens, an orchard and a bowling green, now used as an open
classroom. John and Jane Leech had eight children, one being Helen born at Gorse Hall,
she was later to become the mother of Beatrix POTTER, the famous children’s author.
A Blue Plaque can be seen at the main entrance on High St. Stalybridge.
Right: Gorse Hall
The journal logged events dating as early as 1881. She recorded conversations with relatives, observations, and reactions to events happening in other parts of the world. Her journal begins with a conversation with her grandmother: Grandmamma Leech was telling us today about when she came to London. She did not say the date. They came up by the stage coach because great grandfather was going to buy a new one and did not wish to come in his own. The journal continues to explain that two trips were required to bring the family safely to London, from Gorse Hall, Stalybridge.
Source: More about the Potters origins and More about the Potters origins #2
|John Leech had died at Gorse Hall in 1861 but Jane lived on there until
her death ??? in 1884. They are buried in the family vault at Old Chapel, Dukinfield.
Beatrix's parents Helen and Rupert POTTER are buried in the Potter family vault at Hyde
Chapel, Gee Cross. It was at this chapel that the children of
John Harper CROMPTON (1852-1935)
worshipped in the 1930s.
Right: Joel Lane Chapel opened in 1873 and closed in 1960. At one time it had its own little school.
|Above: A 1932 map locating Joel Lane Chapel marked yellow - scale 1:10560|
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