1821 Info14a for Caleb Crompton
Caroline Sale, née Crompton



Caroline Laura Crompton fifth child of Caleb Crompton

Caroline was born on 21 September 1854 in Miners Rest. She died on 05 July 1930 in Cauldfield, Victoria (Victoria BMD 8870/1930)and was interred at Melbourne General Cemetery, grave reference MGC-COE-Z-No259

A young Caroline Laura Sale - 18Kb jpg Left: A young Caroline Laura Sale - date unknown

Caroline married Frederick SALE (1857-1946), of Hobart, in 1879. The family report that Frederick SALE was born on the 16 December 1855 (GRO ref: Solihull 6d 390) in the Solihull district of England.

The Federal Australian Electoral Roll started 1903, and available in Ancestry, give the family home and occupation in 1903 as:

 iA modern house now stands at 8 Merton Street South Melbourne. By 1909 the family had moved

In this instance their daughter, know as Lynne, was at home. Before 1913 the family had moved to the north-west of Ballarat where they remained until 1921 or later.

In 1921 there was a subtle difference of residences.

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Right: A map locating Sulky and Bald Hill in relationship to Ballarat

Note also the location of Miners Rest and Blowhard
  Map locating Sulky - 50kB jpg
Caroline Laura Sale - 32kB jpg Left: Caroline Laura Sale née Crompton - date unknown
Source: Heather Schoffelen
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Caroline and Frederick give two different addresses. Bald Hills, Sulky, and Daisy Hill, are now rural 'areas' on the map rather than the gold mining towns they may have been. Whilst both locations appear to be Federation bungalows in a paddock, Sulky, 3.3km from Bald Hills is the smaller of two small communities. There is no obvious sign of work for a bricklayer though the expanding Creswick, once a gold mining town 7.5km from Bald Hills, would have been a source of employment and shopping. However the couple stayed at their two different addresses until 1928 when they moved to Melbourne.

At the time William Blackman, Caroline's brother-in-law, was working on a farm. His marriage certificate, dated April 24th 1872, states that the ceremony was at Bald Hills, Creswick. The Presbyterian Minister of Creswick officiated. Today, there is no mention of a Bald Hills church.

The Australian Electoral Roll 1903-1977, available on Ancestry, records their homes and occupations in the 1928 Roll as:

which is now a modern building on the plot. After Caroline's death, in 1931, Frederick moved to:


Caroline's death

Caroline died on 05 July 1930 in Cauldfield, Victoria aged 75 (Victoria BMD 8870/1930).

Headstone of Caroline Sale - 102kB jpg Left: The headstone of Caroline Sale in Melbourne General Cemetery, Parkville
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Argus banner 11 July 1930 - kB jpg
 Caroline Luara Sale's probate - kB jpg Notice is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in the Probate jurisdiction, that LETTERS of ADMINISTRATION of the estate of CAROLINE LURA SALE, late of 161 Booran Road, Glenhuntly, in the State of Victoria, married woman, deceased, intestate, may be granted to Frederick John Crompton Sale, of 11 Newbay crescent, Brighton, in the said State, architect, the son and one of the next of kin of the said deceased. Dated this tenth day of July, one thousand nlne hundred and thirty.
R. W. BARRIE, LLLB, 450 Little Collins street, Melbourne, proctor for the applicant

Her children

Maude Louise SALE Caroline and Frederick's first child

Maude Louise SALE was born Clifton Hill in 1880, Victoria (Victoria BMD 2214/1880). She married Francis Marvel Wallcott CHAMBERS in 1921 (Victoria BMD 112/1921), who was born in 1880. He died in Hobart, Tasmania on 23 July 1949. In 1934, they lived at 24 Fitzroy Place, Hobart. Frank was a merchant. There was no known issue. Fred Sale, in his letter from Gallipoli refers to 'the girls' in the same sentence as Maude. Under investigation.

Argus banner 04 April 1939 - 22kB jpg
Maude died in Sydney on 30 March 1939 (NSW BMD 392/1939) Maude Louise Sale's death notice - 24kB jpg
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Madeline Laura SALE Caroline and Frederick's fourth child

Madeline was born 1888 (Victoria BMD 17148/1888) in Ascot Vale. She married Dr George Edward Payne PHILPOTS in 1914 (Victoria BMD 6676/1914) .PHILPOTS who was born in 1879 (Victoria BMD 21806/1879) in Lodd and died in Oakleigh in 1952 (Victoria BMD 7792/1952). He was cremated at Springfield Botanical Cemetery on 10 July 1952. Madeline died in 1954 (Victoria BMD 9583/1954) in Malvern East and was cremated at Springfield Botanical Cemetery on 20 August 1954.

Dr. George PHILPOTS was dentist born in Castlemaine. His father was a Chemist. In 1937 Frederick John Crompton SALE was in the care of his sister Madeline and his brother-in-law, Dr George Edward Payne PHILPOTS and died in their care.

Table Talk 10 April 1924 banner - 51kB jpg
Right: Dental Hygiene (10 April 1924), Table Talk, p2. Accessed Trove, 20 September 2017 Dr. Philpots interested his audience by showing the photographs of his little sons, who had been brought up on plain and wholesome diet, and who certainly are splendid specimens of childhood. Apropos, the younger is to be baptised at St. Agnes' Church of England, Glenhuntly, on April 16, and one of his godfathers is to be Mr. W. Linford Smith, of Pittsburgh, Pa., U.S.A. Mr. and Mrs. Philpots realise that he cannot be present to take part in the ceremony and therefore they have asked him to read the service at the appointed hour, regulating it by the difference between American and Australian times.
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Above: Philpot children from Table Talk 10 April 1924

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Her grandchild

Claire Elizabeth TIMLOCK née SALE

There is no obvious record of Claire's birth or her marriage to John Campbell TILOCK in Victoria BMD. John Campbell TILOCK was an architect. There is no obvious record of his birth.

Claire Timlock October 2009 - 30kB jpg On 04 October 2009 Claire Elizabeth Timlock visited my Witney home, whilst she was on a visit to the UK. She and her daughter Keri were the first antipodean 'cousins' I had met. They had driven from, I think, their London location.

Clare died peacefully on 27 August 2023. The notification in The Age of 30 August 2023 records her being grandmother to Kirsten, Felix, Charlie, Lauren, Daniel, Will, Louis and Max. She was great grandmother to Jonathan and Amalia and aunt to Mandy and Peter.

Right: Claire Timlock October 2009

The Australian Electoral Roll 1903-1977, available on Ancestry, records Claire's homes and occupations as:

At different times two sons are recorded:

Right: Claire Tlimlock's home for many years at 11 Holding Street, Beaumaris 11 Holing Street - 46kB jpg
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Scott TIMLOCK - Claire and John's third child

Scott Timlock - 22kBpjg Scott is a director of Eureka Pick and Pack based at 5/167 Westall Road, Clayton South. VIC 3169. Their web site describes the company as 'an ideal partner for all your EDI logistics requirements. Eureka are a family owned Australian business that has been operating for over 9 years. Eureka are A1 accredited for distribution into most major Australian retailers and take personal pride in the work we do for our clients'.

Left: Scott Timlock from his company web site

Rohan TIMLOCK - Claire and John's fourth child

In 2016 Rohan was an Executive Producer. Rohan produced the award winning feature Kenny, which saw him win the SPAA Independent Feature Producer Award in 2006. He has produced music videos for some of Australia's biggest acts. His credits include numerous short films, including I Love U in 2002, one of the first dramas shot entirely in sign language and Messiah.

Right: Rohan Timlock circa 2017 Source: Heather Schoffelen/Linedin
Rohan Timlock - 28kB jpg

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Richard John Crompton SALE

Finding Richard John Crompton SALE in Victoria BMD is difficult. His death is recorded as Richard John Cawthorne SALE who died in Melbourne in 1990 (Vic BMD 28461/1990) aged 64. However, he has the correct mother of Irene JAMES and father Frederick SALE. His spouse is recorded as Rosemary ROBERTS. In the marriage of Rosemary ROBERTS, her husband is recorded as Reginald John Co SALE (Vic BMD 2149/1954). In the Electoral Roll Richard John Cawthorne SALE is a different person.

The Australian Electoral Roll 1903-1977, available on Ancestry, records Richard's homes and occupations in the 1949 Roll as:

where his mother lived until 1954. From 1963 to 1968, when Richard was married, he and Rosemary lived at:

but when widowed Rosemary moved ..



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